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carbritkye
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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 1:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Looking for a suggestions for a 7-9 day route in Chiniguchi. Donald lake was suggested as part of a trip for its Killarney like beauty. Any thoughts on this.
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preacher
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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 5:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Hillbilly has a route that sounds nice. Up Chini, down Laurel?
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lost_canoe
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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 8:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Hi Shelley,

Here's a link that the wife (well...then girlfreind turned fiancee on this trip) & I did in '08.

http://waterwalker.ca/fireside/index.php?topic=504 .0

A group of us are gonna be up in that area this August. We are starting at Kukagami Lake and then Carafel, Maskinonge, Edna, Karl & Donald.

Hope that helps.

Mike
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zed
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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 9:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

carbritkye,

My suggestion: Matagamasi up thru Wolf and Chiniguchi, Dougherty, Frederick, Stouffer to the Sturgeon River. Down river to the Rawson crossover and Laura Creek back to Matagamasi.

That should eat up your 7-9 days no problem.

Zed

(Message edited by zed on March 10, 2010)
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carbritkye
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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 9:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Thank you all for the suggestions, I talk them all over with Claude and take a look at the maps and make a decision.
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canoedog
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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Start on Kukagami @ Sportsmans Lodge to
Carafel - Karl - Evelyn - McConnell Bay (Chiniguichi)

2 options from here -

- south on Chiniguichi, Dewdney to Wolf easier but busier
- south through Marjorie, Rathwell and Laundry to Wolf harder but quieter

Matagamasi through Gold and Colin Scott to Donald - to Sportsmans Lodge

Seven nights -stay on bolded lakes. All depends on how far you like to paddle daily etc - lots of options in the area. I've done all of the mentioned ones and variations and combinations of them all - you can find a few of my trip reports for the area at http://canoedog.ca/summer.asp.
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alscool
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Registered: 02-2004


Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 8:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

- south through Marjorie, Rathwell and Laundry to Wolf harder but quieter


Careful on this one MNR says it is not a canoe route, I am sure it could become a skidder route if they so choose but for now they are digging their heels in.

Not sure why, perhaps their are too many pointy rocks along the way :-(


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lost_canoe
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Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 7:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Hey Al,
What do ya mean by "skidder route" & "pointy rocks"?? Is this a mining thing??

Mike
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alscool
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 8:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Friends of Temagami, participated in the review of the Sudbury Forest Management Plan and as such we researced and found a gap in the MNR database of related recreational values, in this case five canoe routes that were not listed in the inventory of "In Use Status". Marjorie Lake route is one that was just denied the status of in use and as such is not afforded the same safe gaurds as other canoe routes do.
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canoedog
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 9:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

All the more reason to get it back into use by more folks. When I was through there in May '07 I found evidence of use at the campsite on Marjorie - what is the definition of "in use"?
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brian
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 9:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

MNR does not decide what is a canoe route. They were all created long before MNR came along. This one is an old nastawgan. And anyone can use it.
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canoedog
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 9:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I agree Brian, I was just wondering about their "in use" designation in regards to the FMP process.
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alscool
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

MNR does not decide what is a canoe route. They were all created long before MNR came along. This one is an old nastawgan. And anyone can use it.

MNR does decide what values are afforded what AOC. They also have a big say in how my interest in historic trails is acknowledged and how the results are accepted.}
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brian
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 3:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I, too, am wondering about the "in use" question Canoedog posed.
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alscool
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 4:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

FOT as well. It is a fundamental issue in our Issue Resolution as we move forward to meeting with the Regional Director of MNR.

Anyway sorry for the topic hi-jack, feel free to paddle the Marjorie Lake route, despite all this, there is a route there and a pretty one at that and well suited to get away from the more popular route. Perhaps your enjoyment of the route will help to enforce this "In Use Status" that Marjorie Lake could benefit from.
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micmac
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 7:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I'll chime in here:
The Marjorie Route is a fantastic option in the area - it is becoming more popular, but doesn't see nearly the traffic that the Wolf-Dewdney route gets.
These lakes are pristine, scenic, and wild. Portages can be tough to find, but are in adequate condition. I brushed them out myself two years ago.

Unfortunately, the MNR 'powers that be' refuse to recognize that this is actually a canoe route, and these portages won't receive the protection they deserve...
Logging is moving into this area.
Enjoy the route while it is still in it's pristine, wild state.
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carbritkye
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 8:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Well there certainly are a lot of options and I will look them all over thank you all for the sugestions

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