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carbritkye Member
Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2010
| Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 1:14 pm: |
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Looking for a suggestions for a 7-9 day route in Chiniguchi. Donald lake was suggested as part of a trip for its Killarney like beauty. Any thoughts on this.
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preacher Member
Post Number: 95 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 5:31 pm: |
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Hillbilly has a route that sounds nice. Up Chini, down Laurel? |

lost_canoe Member
Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2010
| Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 8:39 pm: |
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Hi Shelley, Here's a link that the wife (well...then girlfreind turned fiancee on this trip) & I did in '08. http://waterwalker.ca/fireside/index.php?topic=504 .0 A group of us are gonna be up in that area this August. We are starting at Kukagami Lake and then Carafel, Maskinonge, Edna, Karl & Donald. Hope that helps. Mike |

zed Member
Post Number: 15 Registered: 04-2008

| Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 9:06 pm: |
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carbritkye, My suggestion: Matagamasi up thru Wolf and Chiniguchi, Dougherty, Frederick, Stouffer to the Sturgeon River. Down river to the Rawson crossover and Laura Creek back to Matagamasi. That should eat up your 7-9 days no problem. Zed (Message edited by zed on March 10, 2010) |

carbritkye Member
Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2010
| Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 9:57 pm: |
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Thank you all for the suggestions, I talk them all over with Claude and take a look at the maps and make a decision. |

canoedog Member
Post Number: 20 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 10:38 pm: |
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Start on Kukagami @ Sportsmans Lodge to Carafel - Karl - Evelyn - McConnell Bay (Chiniguichi) 2 options from here - - south on Chiniguichi, Dewdney to Wolf easier but busier - south through Marjorie, Rathwell and Laundry to Wolf harder but quieter Matagamasi through Gold and Colin Scott to Donald - to Sportsmans Lodge Seven nights -stay on bolded lakes. All depends on how far you like to paddle daily etc - lots of options in the area. I've done all of the mentioned ones and variations and combinations of them all - you can find a few of my trip reports for the area at http://canoedog.ca/summer.asp. |

alscool Moderator
Post Number: 227 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 8:33 am: |
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- south through Marjorie, Rathwell and Laundry to Wolf harder but quieter Careful on this one MNR says it is not a canoe route, I am sure it could become a skidder route if they so choose but for now they are digging their heels in. Not sure why, perhaps their are too many pointy rocks along the way
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lost_canoe Member
Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2010
| Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 7:38 pm: |
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Hey Al, What do ya mean by "skidder route" & "pointy rocks"?? Is this a mining thing?? Mike |

alscool Moderator
Post Number: 229 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 8:48 am: |
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Friends of Temagami, participated in the review of the Sudbury Forest Management Plan and as such we researced and found a gap in the MNR database of related recreational values, in this case five canoe routes that were not listed in the inventory of "In Use Status". Marjorie Lake route is one that was just denied the status of in use and as such is not afforded the same safe gaurds as other canoe routes do. |

canoedog Member
Post Number: 21 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 9:02 am: |
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All the more reason to get it back into use by more folks. When I was through there in May '07 I found evidence of use at the campsite on Marjorie - what is the definition of "in use"? |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 1155 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 9:33 am: |
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MNR does not decide what is a canoe route. They were all created long before MNR came along. This one is an old nastawgan. And anyone can use it.
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canoedog Member
Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 9:54 am: |
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I agree Brian, I was just wondering about their "in use" designation in regards to the FMP process. |

alscool Moderator
Post Number: 230 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 10:55 am: |
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MNR does not decide what is a canoe route. They were all created long before MNR came along. This one is an old nastawgan. And anyone can use it. MNR does decide what values are afforded what AOC. They also have a big say in how my interest in historic trails is acknowledged and how the results are accepted.} |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 1156 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 3:18 pm: |
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I, too, am wondering about the "in use" question Canoedog posed. |

alscool Moderator
Post Number: 231 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 4:11 pm: |
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FOT as well. It is a fundamental issue in our Issue Resolution as we move forward to meeting with the Regional Director of MNR. Anyway sorry for the topic hi-jack, feel free to paddle the Marjorie Lake route, despite all this, there is a route there and a pretty one at that and well suited to get away from the more popular route. Perhaps your enjoyment of the route will help to enforce this "In Use Status" that Marjorie Lake could benefit from.
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micmac Member
Post Number: 94 Registered: 12-2005

| Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 7:11 pm: |
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I'll chime in here: The Marjorie Route is a fantastic option in the area - it is becoming more popular, but doesn't see nearly the traffic that the Wolf-Dewdney route gets. These lakes are pristine, scenic, and wild. Portages can be tough to find, but are in adequate condition. I brushed them out myself two years ago. Unfortunately, the MNR 'powers that be' refuse to recognize that this is actually a canoe route, and these portages won't receive the protection they deserve... Logging is moving into this area. Enjoy the route while it is still in it's pristine, wild state. |

carbritkye Member
Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2010
| Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 8:03 pm: |
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Well there certainly are a lot of options and I will look them all over thank you all for the sugestions |