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fireman
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 08-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 9:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

folks,
quick question...
Is it a decent route for mid June, or not?>
I am disinclined to try it, as I had a traumatic trip there way back in the nineties, but if you guys say it is worth doing, I will go along with the school group without objection.
I worry that the slow winding river will make us siting ducks for the bugs and, Grey Mud Lake still gives me nightmares from being stuck in it for half a day long ago.
I have never done the portage to Trethewey, I seem to recall people saying that it is very rough, rarely used.
Any opinions would be much appreciated, the sooner the better as we are set to leave soon.
Cheers and happy paddling.
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grncnu
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Post Number: 214
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Friday, June 1, 2012 - 1:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

hap wilson listed a campsite on bercole lake on an older edition of his guide and we went there, also in the 90's. it (bercole) in accessed via a small creek branching east off the grays r. a few miles north of the l.e.r., small but passable especially in june, takes less than an hour.
bercole is a truly beautiful lake with a very remote feel. unfortunately there is no "campsite" on the shoreline, but you can climb up the hill and find unlimited tent space- you do the cooking, fire etc. on the shore. satisfaction guaranteed!!
can't say you won't get bugs though...
never done trethewey... maybe this year!!
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ed
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Post Number: 1175
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Posted on Friday, June 1, 2012 - 8:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Fireman:
Not sure quite what you are asking... are you going from LER N through MacPherson Lake and up Grays River to Graymud Lake then into Gray's Lake and Makobe to Threthewey or are you going into the bottom of Greymud for a short bit and taking the portage over to the lower basin of Makobe and then back out using the south crossover route to get to Threthewey?}
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fireman
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Post Number: 200
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Posted on Friday, June 1, 2012 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

as far as I can figure, we are putting in at Mowat Landing, heading over to Maple Mountain, then up the North Channel through Stonehenge, into MacPherson then Gray Mud and the portage into Makobe Lake. From there, I understand we go over into Trethewey and back down the way we came, exiting via the South Channel of the LER, then Diamond, Obabika and get picked up at the central access point. Not my route, some new territory for me (Trethewey) any advice on any of it would be appreciated. My concern, first off,
are prevailing westerly winds along the top of Lady Evelyn Lake. I recall that crossing as being a tough "into the wind" paddle. But, maybe I was just unlucky. It seems pretty open.
Any good campsite reccommendations would be much
appreciated.
As far as Grey Mud Lake, I have already written of my low water fears, but with recent rain, i am trying to stay optimistic.
Other than that, it is a two week trip, how bad can it be?
Just coming off of a department injury and a little cautious, is all. Plus the eight students who have basically never paddled before.
We had a windy day on Cypress Lake (Cypress National Park, Tobermory0 where we do the canoe rescue and swim test training and I have seen what a strong wind can do to a large group. My fear is getting strung out along the top of Lady Evelyn Lake. But, that is the route, such as it is.
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ed
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Posted on Friday, June 1, 2012 - 1:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I have not done the route from the south end of Graymud across to the SW basin of Makobe. This is a 3600 yard portage and may not see much use. I would ask the Parks Super for advice, if I was planning to do it.I have gone through Graymud a few times in the Spring without problem and travelled up the Gray's River into Banks and then into either Makobe or Threthewey. The route into the north end of Threthewey from Makobe is interesting, through a short chain of lakes and a creek.
Going out of the SE basin of Makobe takes you close to south end of Threthewey,via a series of creeks and small lakes, but you don't actually go into Threthewey from here unless that was your plan.In that case you would likely come out via the ATV trail on the west side and hit the Liskeard road and then the North LER somewhere around Weedend Lake , then travel south as described.

Fireman, I think you should probably get more details on this trip from the organizers to make sure it looks doable in the time available.

I got stuck in Graymud in August one year, back in the early 1970's. Nasty business pushing along though a bottomless mud pit.



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brian
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Posted on Friday, June 1, 2012 - 2:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

With rain, you should be okay for water levels mid-June. I would worry more about the flies.

MNR recently cut a new trail out of the west side of Trethewey to get it out of the bog. Much quicker and easier now to get directly between Trethewey and Weedend. New trail is shown on this map:
http://www.ottertooth.com/Temagami/Maps/gamble-acc ess-map.htm
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fireman
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Post Number: 201
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Posted on Friday, June 1, 2012 - 4:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

thank you all,
I will get more details but I think we are going north out of Makobe into Trethewey, back down through Trethewey across the trail Brian mentions above. then back along the LER.
I also questioned the terrain vis a vis bugs.
I realize they will be in the park pretty much everywhere, but in those twisting, grassy sections or bog, even worse, I think we are looking for trouble.
I suggested to go to Florence, take advantage of some open lakes and the higher, hopefully windier climes, but this is what they decided.They being the teachers.
I have all the topos for this route, so I am going over it now.
I lack a route map to see it all as one at the moment, though.
Much appreciate the help...keep it coming. Assume I know nothing.
No one mentioned the winds up on Lady Evelyn Lake...am I to hope they are not an issue?

Once again, thank you all.
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grncnu
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Posted on Friday, June 1, 2012 - 9:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

there was some discussion of the winds on the top part of l.e.l. on a thread last summer. i have done it 4 or 5 times and never had a problem but a glance at the map tells you it could definitely be an issue.
coming out of the narrow "river" section past mattawapika dam, there is the option of cutting across sugar lake etc. to the lower part of l.e.l. and then on up- could be an option in a strong west wind.

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