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ramonafan
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 7:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

And ready to transport us in to town.
45 feet of elegance.
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ramonafan
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Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 8:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

If you'd like to see her a little "later in life", I'll post more pics.
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bush_pilot
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Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yes more pics please.
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jgr3rd
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 1:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I'm looking forward to seeing more pictures and hearing more information.
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ramonafan
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 7:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Here she is in town the following year -- 1967.
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ramonafan
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 8:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Ramona must have been tres elegante in her youth without all the hardware atop. Certainly, she had a presence wherever she went. Who couldn't appreciate her beautiful lines. A masterpiece.
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ramonafan
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 8:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

In reading the Ditchburn book and the Wood & Glory book, we can closely approximate her date of construction around 1927-1928. The raised engine hatch with vents was supposedly introduced in 1927. And the factory sales brochure in which she appears was from the "late '20's" (in the Ditchburn book). Custom made for Colonel J. J. Grafton of Dundas, Ontario.
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jgr3rd
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 9:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Ramonafan: Great pictures. She still looked pretty good compared to the "battleship grey" paint job of the late 60's. I have pictures of her early days which I will post. In a previous post I had indicated she was ordered in 1922/1923 and delivered 1924/1925. In 1928, she was registered under The Merchant Shipping Act (now Canada Shipping Act) with Toronto being the port of registry.Interestingly, the Builder's Certificate, prepared by Ditchburn Boats,Limited and delivered at time of inital application for registry omitted the date she was built.The surveyor's certificate shows 1923 as the date she was built and indicates Ditchburn's yard number was 23/4.
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ramonafan
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

jgr3rd: Terrific research job you've done on her! I do remember the stern saying Toronto in the early days. I'm intrigued by your recollections of her interior step-up, etc. You ride on her often? Myself, only once or twice at age 12 or so. What does the yard number 23/4 mean? 1923-1924? Or was it their Orillia plant for larger craft? I'd be interested in any other remembrances you have.
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jgr3rd
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Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 1:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Ramonafan;Ramona was built at Gravenhurst. I believe 23/4 means 4th hull for 1923. I have the original contract specifications as well as copies of the original application for registration and all subsequent transfers. Sadly, I never had the pleasure of a ride on her.
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ramonafan
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Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 8:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Might the contract specs include drawings? I wonder if blueprints are available.
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angus_scully
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Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

When I was researching the history of the Aubrey, I found that plans for boats were kept with the Ship Safety Branch of Transport Canada.They had "misplaced" the Aubrey file, but they may have them for other boats on the lake. The contact in 2002 was Connie Delaney at 613-998-6945 . E-mail was DelaneC@tc.gc.ca

Good Luck
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ramonafan
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Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Thank you, Angus. I'll see what I can find out.
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boater
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Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 5:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Wow! Great pics! Thanks Ramonafan! jgr3rd, I'm wondering if the 4/23 date refers to the time the keel was laid as opposed to date of delivery. If so, that might square the dates. Interesting also to hear about T.O. being the original port of registry. I had heard rumors of it being a Toronto Harbour police boat at one time (obviously after Mr. Grafton's ownership)but that didn't sound likely to me as I could not imagine what the police would do with such a boat. It would be nice if this thread prompted others with pics of the interesting boats on the lake at that time to send them in. Lake Temagami had a great collection of what would be referred to today as " classics". I remember Senator Joe Sullivan's large Shepperd for instance.
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jgr3rd
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Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 7:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Boater:As previously indicated, I believe the 23/4 yard number means it was the 4th boat on which construction was started in 1923.After Col. Grafton's death in 1939, Ramona was sold by the Grafton family to Temagami Boat Company Limited Dec/40 - Jan./41. I presume she arrived at Lake Temagami for the 1941 season. I believe there was at least one boat built by Ditchburn which was owned by the Toronto Harbour police.

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