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dendrast
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 7:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

According to the information I have, there will be a complete ban on all outdoor fires in effect tmorrow night, July 13, at midnight. This was reported to me as a phone call (ie. second-hand). If you have plans to travel in the district, plan on bringing a fueled stove. It probably wouldn't hurt to check with the Ministry also, but in view of the intensely and protracted hot and dry spell, don't be surprised if it's bad news.
BTW, even if it does rain, thet doesn't mean that a fire-ban is automatically removed. CHECK!
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dendrast
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 7:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

PS : I feel like I just spammed these boards, but this is IMPORTANT !
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dendrast
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 6:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

It's confirmed. The ads are on television. The restricted fire zone extends from North bay in the south north to Hearst, parts of the districts of Cochrane and Wawa, and including all of Manitoulin Island and the district of Sudbury. I will update when and if I get more info.
Govern yourselves accordingly.
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paul_mclaren
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 03-2004


Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I had a customner come into our store today who works on Lady Evelyn, he said that Maple Mountain is on fire! I was just wondering if anyone else has heard anything and if there was anymore fires burning in the Temagami area?
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bush_pilot
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 03-2004


Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Paul

Maybe there was a small fire on Maple Mtn. but to say the "mountain is on fire" is an exaggeration. As of this evening the heavy water bombers are in Elliot Lake, the lighter Twin Otters are in Sudbury. Great pictures of the CL 415's on Lake Temagami btw.
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ed
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Post Number: 219
Registered: 03-2004


Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 4:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

On Friday July 15th we were on Bob lake paddling in the early evening about 6:30PM when a twin engine plane zoomed overhead and started circling what appeared to be an area over Lake Temagami in the Sharp Rock area. The plane was fairly low and did this several times. Then it suddenly climbed up higher and proceeded to circle at that level. Shortly after a large CL415 lumbered into view before it disappeared over the treeline.

It then reappeared , North of us heading West to East over Diamond before dropping below the treeline and making a lot of noise over in that direction. It did this for about 15 times before it lumbered off only to be replaced by the sound of a helicopter "wumping" into the area. The helicopter seemed to hover around for a while then it too left, only to return about 8:30PM for a short period before leaving for the evening and returning again on Saturday morning.

I have to assume, that the twin engine plane was a spotter plane, checking out a hot spot on Temagami or in that immediate area and the CL415 was picking up water on Diamond and dumping it on a fire. The helicopter, must have been dropping off a ground crew, which it returned to pick up later in the evening.

We only had a very brief glimpse of it as it passed over a part of the skyline East of us.

We never saw any smoke and the whole operation seemed to happen very quickly. I was wondering if some of those guys on the helicopter had to give up their Friday evening on a fire watch after the fire was put out. That would explain the return of the helicopter on Saturday morning.

Anyone know anything about this incident?
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bush_pilot
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 03-2004


Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Ed
It sounds like you hit the nail on the head. The first plane would either be a detection plane or a Bird Dog that is teamed with the bomber. A bird dog has an MNR air attack fire specialist on board who directs the bombers on where to drop the water. It is pretty obvious on a small fire but on a large fire it may not be obvious for the bomber pilots. On a large fire the bird dog also acts as an air traffic controller, there could be 2 or 3 bombers and several helicopters all working in a relatively confined area that is obscured by smoke. It can be a very intense environment to work in especially if a fire is spreading rapidly. So far this summer Ontario has a lot of resourses at its disposal since the fire hazard is low in the rest of the country. As a consequence they have been able to attack new fires very quickly before they have a chance to spread out of control.
New fires are starting everyday (740 so far mostly in N.E. Ont.)and the fire base in Sudbury is quite busy. Some would argue that they are being too efficient and not letting nature run its course, the vast majority of wild fires are caused by lightning. But that sounds like a new thread.
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ed
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Post Number: 220
Registered: 03-2004


Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 6:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Bush Pilot:
I understand that Manitoba started to water bomb small fires agressively several years ago as soon as they were detected and they were so successful in keeping them under control and extinguishing them that Ontario and other jurisdictions began the same type of program.
Prior to that,it was there practice to let them go for a few days until they could muster the necessary resources for an assault.
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blitz_boy
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Can anyone update the status of the fire ban? Was there a large fire on Maple Mtn? We are planning to go there the second week of Aug.
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irishfield
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Post Number: 48
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

FULL Fireban still in effect. You CANNOT have a fire for cooking or warmth. Bring your coleman stove and keep a darn good eye on it...it's a tinder box. Even the moss crunches like rice crispies under your feet!

Cheers,
Wayne
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ramah_tripper
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I was leading a camp group and we were setting up camp on tupper and saw the lightning strike which started the Maple Mountain fire. On my way out (friday 15th) we stopped by finlayson to report that we had put out a small root fire that we came upon directly across from the beginning of the centre falls portage (clearly caused by extremly careless campers). At that point the fire was being held at 10 hectares. From my vantage point it look like it should interfere with climbing the mountain so long as you take the trail from the old cabin. The fire was seemed to be centred on the north side of the lower ridge which is just east of the main ridge.

Happy Tripping.

Peter
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blitz_boy
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 8:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Thank you both very much for the info.

Irishfield I will try to say hi when I pass by your place on the way back to Temagami.

Blitz
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c_mel
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 02-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 2:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

So, what's the deal - is the Ban still in effect?
According to the Fire Hazard Chart: http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/MNR/affmb/Fire/Media/ms_E ast.htm it doesn't look that bad:

...as of July 27,

Hearst..............M-H
Cochrane............M-H
Wawa................H-E
Chapleau............M-H
Timmins.............M-H
Kirkland Lake.........H
Sault Ste. Marie....M-H
Sudbury.............M
North Bay...........L-M
Parry Sound...........M
Algonquin Park......L-M
Kemptville..........L
Midhurst............L
Bancroft..............M
Peterborough........L-M
Pembroke............L-M



(Message edited by c_mel on July 28, 2005)
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paul_mclaren
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 03-2004


Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 6:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Bush_Pilot

Thanks for the update!

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salmon
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 - 9:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Just wondering if the fire ban continues. Also does anyone know what lakes are up north of river valley that you can fish in? Also there location.
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brian
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Post Number: 441
Registered: 02-2004


Posted on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yes, the fire ban is on. When it comes off it will be posted on the main Temagami page at
http://www.ottertooth.com/tem_index.htm
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dendrast
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 9:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

We received a phone call this morning, 9am. The fire ban is lifted for the Temagami region, still in effect in other places (Chapleau was mentioned). Assume that the fire hazard is still high, but perhaps not extreme.
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blitz_boy
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Are you sure? If so great news as we are leaving tomorrow.
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dendrast
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Friday, August 5, 2005 - 4:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yes. Brian has story up on Temagami main page now.(See link above my previous post.)

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