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island49 Member
Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 1:15 pm: |
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Great forum. Fantastic resource for information. Can anyone shed some light on the proposed wind power installation/development which I believe will be going up at Rabbit Lake? |

dave Member
Post Number: 55 Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 1:27 pm: |
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i have a cottage on rabbit lake and i haven't heard anything about that, but i'm now going to be looking into it, as i'm opposed to wind generators..over the long weekend i over heard a conversation in the town hall between a couple guys who handle wind experiments, but i didn't hear a specific location, only that one of them got the green light from the town for a project..personally i think it's a huge mistake..not a good area for one at all |

island49 Member
Post Number: 2 Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 2:45 pm: |
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Thanks for your response and I hope I haven't mislead you with the Rabbit Lake info. This is only a rumour that I have heard. Anything else I hear in my search I will also post. Good luck.
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bush_pilot Member
Post Number: 73 Registered: 03-2004

| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 1:50 pm: |
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The rumour is the site will be at the old Sherman mine. Dave, curious why you are against wind power. |

dave Member
Post Number: 56 Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 4:19 pm: |
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i'm not really against the idea, just the location selection. i don't think temagami is a good location. i don't see how the area has enough steady winds to keep the blades rotating. and i've heard that they're pretty noisy. personally, i think wind power should be skipped completely and all money going to it should be put into solar power. but obviously wind is still better than coal or nuclear though. |

bush_pilot Member
Post Number: 74 Registered: 03-2004

| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 6:06 pm: |
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Dave I agree I doubt there are enough days in Temagami with a constant wind. I would guess that wind turbines would have to be near a very large body of water to take advantage of on-shore and off- shore wind created by differential heating of the land and water. Having said that no one would hear turbines at the Sherman Mine site. Oddly enough Sudbury is one of the sunniest cities in Ontario and Temagami is only 60 miles away. Last months National Geographic had a great article on alternative energy, more solar panels indeed. |

dave Member
Post Number: 58 Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 1:56 pm: |
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it's funny that sudbury is one of the sunniest cities in ontario, because they have a wind turbine there.. |

kim Moderator
Post Number: 100 Registered: 03-2004

| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 6:09 pm: |
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Here is some interesting info on wind farms. This one is on Lake Huron. http://www.huronwind.com/huronwind/factfiles.asp |

kim Moderator
Post Number: 101 Registered: 03-2004

| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 6:21 pm: |
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I stopped in at this place last week and snooped around.The owner was very accomodating and excited about his product line.He showed me his last hydro bill from his retail space. $10.00 for actual usage from the grid and $50.00 to pay off the hydro debt. He was powering his office with this small turbine .The blades are mounted on the roof. http://home.golden.net/~red/wind_turbines.htm |

bush_pilot Member
Post Number: 75 Registered: 03-2004

| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 6:32 pm: |
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Sudbury doesn't have turbines yet but they will be doing a feasability study much like Temagami. It sounds like a wind farm is going to be built on Manitoulin Island, should work well there. |

kim Moderator
Post Number: 102 Registered: 03-2004

| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 11:15 pm: |
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Mr McGuinty has a proposal before parliament to begin damming small rivers in order to generate hydro electric power in remote communities. Tenders are being submitted by private companies to participae in this venture. Excess power (if any)would be sold to the grid. Dam(n)a river or supplement with wind and/or solar energy? How about building a huge nuke plant in Field? Pick your poison...... "Live better... electricaly"
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doug_2 Member
Post Number: 30 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 12:51 pm: |
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KIm Yes I agree...the proposed hyrdo projects for many small and medium rivers in Ontario is really scarey. What is the future for the freeflowing wilderness rivers? Already the White River, a classic large volume canoe river that flows right through Pukaskwa National Park and into Lake Superior has 3 proposed hydro projects ; all three in wilderness, unaltered sections of the river. Also, these White River projects are going to be in a new Provincial Waterway class park. How strange is that? (No, park policy says that waterway class parks can't have "new" hydro projects, BUT apparently the "commitments" for the projects came BEFORE the new park...So that is why it can happen that way.) Very little negative input on these projects either. I find that hard to understand considering that is one great canoe river and connects Provincial Parks to a National Park.....and it is wilderness now and unaltered all the way from White Lake Provincial Park on Highway #17 to Lake Superior...several days canoe journey downstream.. |

dave Member
Post Number: 59 Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 1:29 pm: |
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follow the link to see the best areas for wind power http://www.ontariowindatlas.ca/ms/mapservEn?layer= speed80&layer=province&program=/ms/mapservEn |

kim Moderator
Post Number: 103 Registered: 03-2004

| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 12:22 pm: |
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doug_2 I think that a couple of organized canoe groups have submitted interventions regarding damming some whitewater rivers? Not sure where though? LightJay would know. Are you there Jay? |

doug_2 Member
Post Number: 31 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 9:17 pm: |
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Kim... I sent my concerns to all the envrio groups and to MNR (about the White) but seems they are reluctant to act on it because First Nations economic revival is a theme involved in the project... and ..so called , green power too. Ok..yes..I do understand the sensitivity,and the issue and of course I have respect for that, but still, the result is the result...regardless of who is involved....or why. How bad could it be in the long run? I guess that is the question I wonder about... Do I like it? NO. If someone can change mmy mind about it...I'm open to the discussion. |

kim Moderator
Post Number: 104 Registered: 03-2004

| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 9:47 pm: |
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Tough call Its good that you voiced your concerns. That is important. Same thing goes for logging,mining,fishing,hunting ,outstanding land claims and economic development for First Nations. More tough calls ,and I sure dont have the answers,but I write letters too.
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