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kim
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Post Number: 123
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 6:25 pm: | 
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I recently become the proud owner of a 15 foot cedar strip canoe.
I think that she needs a name.
All the big boats have names.
I am planning on paddling her for a season and then deciding on a name in the fall.
Do canoeists "name" their canoes?
Sorry........but ......I have been a kayaker .
I have seen a few canoes with names .
Very few kayakers name their yaks.
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brian
Moderator
Post Number: 536
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 9:51 am: |
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Cedar canoes tend to be the ones I've noticed that are named. They have a personality and need our TLC, so it seems more natural to give them a name. |
ed
Moderator
Post Number: 265
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 10:13 am: |
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I can think of some good names for your new canoe, but maybe they would offend you....And since I would like to remain your best and only friend, I will be quiet about the names I have been considering.
Regards, Ed.
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kim
Moderator
Post Number: 124
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:02 pm: |
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Yer a funny guy Ed.
Thousands of comedians out of work and here you are giving me a shot?
I have tolerated your snoring,burping and farting.
I have shared beverages with you.
I have even given your dog treats.
I am crying here............
My heart is broken!
ha! |
paul_hammersten
Member
Post Number: 232
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 3:56 pm: |
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Yes...your canoe could have name...and ...nicely painted designs/images is cool too. We often named our trip canoes.
My kayak does not have a name but two hand carved and painted duck heads are mounted on the bow and stern and hold the painters.
Best
Paul |
kim
Moderator
Post Number: 125
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 5:25 pm: |
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Thanks Paul
Look out Ed....another kayaker. |
micdor
Member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 9:09 am: |
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I think you should name your canoe "How Come". That way when someone asks you, "How come", you can say, "By canoe". OH HOW DRY IS THAT HUMOUR? |
mike
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 9:54 am: |
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Kim, I have been going to name my Old Town wood and canvas for over 30 years now. Never did get to do it let alone name my 12' Rehume cedar strip. Glad to see you made the switchover. They are just great on the water, that is till you hit something. The pain is just unbelievable.
Mike |
kim
Moderator
Post Number: 127
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 8:20 pm: |
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mike
I have not made the complete switchover ...yet.
We will see.
I have been a kayaker for years.
I am going to paddle it with a kayak paddle.
I tried a single blade and it just does not work for me.Seems to be inefficient?
Maybe I need some lessons. |
hillbilly
Member
Post Number: 170
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 1:17 am: |
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Kim,
I maybe soloing this year and Have thought of getting a yak paddle and trying it. You give me lessons withayak paddle and I will give you lessons with a single blade.
Bill |
kim
Moderator
Post Number: 128
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 9:12 am: |
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hillbilly
Its a deal |
mike
Member
Post Number: 39
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 12:51 pm: |
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Kim, Here are a few facts that may help you. I have never been in a kayak. I was always afraid that if it went over I would be trapped underneath. The first thing is ,I am sure, you will find when you sit solo in a 15' canoe the bow will tend to rise. That is unless you are properly trimmed with gear. What I do in my little 12' is sit reversed in the bow seat. The canoe wont know it is moving backward.
I only use two different strokes for all ocassions, the simple J and Draw. There are many more but these will do the job in almost any circumstance. Any canoe book will give you good illustrations of these. Another big difference between the two vessels is how energy is applied. This is very important. From what I have seen is that when kayaking the energy disbursed comes from your forearms in short repetative motions. In a canoe the force stems from your upper body and shoulders in the form of a much longer and deeper motion. Sit in a chair and mimic these two different motions and you will quickly see the difference. The canoe stroke requires complete follow through which in turn allows you to also use the paddle as a rudder. Another area that has evolved for me is the use of the bent shaft blade.It is much shorter, easier to switch from side to side and you can get a real feel for the power it puts out.I still have a very long paddle that I use when standing up.[ I love to meander along the shores of the bays on a calm day]. It gives you a whole different perspective of things.I just cant imagine trying to control a canoe with a kayak blade especially if there is any size in the beam of your canoe. Another item that comes into play is whether or not you have a keel in the canoe. I believe that most cedar strips do not have one. Hope this helps.
I dont know if you were aware that the longer the canoe or Kayak, the faster it will go with a relative amount of energy.In the late 1800's or so an engineer discovered this when there was a race on to build larger and faster ocean going vessels.It all has to do with water displacement and the resulting forces. If you were to take two solid nuggets of tinfoil and roll one into a thin sheet the results become evident when you put them into the water.The nugget will imediately sink to the bottom while it will take much longer for the sheet to do so. As I said it is all a matter of the forces developed through water displacement. In this case the displacement forces would be minuscule but per sq inch there is a big differential. This is my own simple interpretation of the topic but I think you can understand what I mean. Anyway an 18 footer will always outpace a 16 footer when the energy expended is relative. I can definately see the difference between my 12 and 16 ft.canoes.
I am glad to see you chose wood for your canoe. You will never be sorry. I am very perferential to wood and even my 18' motorboat is wood. It is a cedar strip from Giesler in Powasson. Years ago that is pretty much all they used on the lakes. I am the only one on LE that has one and if you are ever on the lake and see one go by, it will be me. Wave and Ill come over.
Kim, as I mentioned in my first post, be sure you have enough kleenex with you when you hit that first hidded obstruction. The pain is devestating.
Mike |
mike
Member
Post Number: 40
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 1:26 pm: |
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Kim,
An addendum to my last post. Every time I pass over Mowatts Landing I see a steel open boat about 16' long. I always amazes me how it even floats.
Mike |
kim
Moderator
Post Number: 131
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 8:11 pm: |
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Hi Mike
You might want to try the sit on top kayaks?
Lots of yakkers in Florida use them for fishing.I prefer a longer decked kayak myself and I paddle a 17 foot Dagger.It is not easily portageable .That is why I got the canoe.
I would like to purchase 2 decent canoe paddles.I do intend on giving a paddle a try.
Any suggestions out there? |
jackpine
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 11:37 am: |
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Back in the early 1980s when I first started paddling, my friend and I rented an aluminum canoe which we used for a trip in Algonquin. For some reason, we decided to name the canoe. We stuck a piece of masking tape on the bow, and for the first half of the trip, the canoe had "Not for hire" writtten on it, and for the second half of the trip, it had "Post no bills."
For fans of science fiction, a series of novels by Philip Jose Farmer (The Riverworld series) included a riverboat with those names (I believe). That is where we got the idea.
Anyway, since then, I have my own canoe, but have never had any inclination to name it.
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canoebear
Member
Post Number: 327
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 7:23 pm: |
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"Comen Into 1's Own"
A moven canoe loomen in tha wind, bringen with it
tha romance of tha primative savagery, into tha NE wildlands, wher tha lure of undiscovered lake passage-ways thru dense woods be tha safe & sound trim functional of 1 of its multi-tasks.
Tha wilderness with-out 'tis "Indian Trade Canoe"
wood be not much wild about. A forbidden draw-back stop + stay wood barricade that Superior expanse of unevenly back country, wher fer sur,
tha far-off Norths East ends realm go much untouched. Move + carrien point-way thru by
put-in & take-out thrust wood make passable far reaches of Eastern unruly edges/or
break fresh path by-way of snowshoe with backpack/nor, not seen ever at all.
Indian Territory wher canoe travel ventures thru pristine lake crossens/or down sum wild rock river
that branch-off into beaver streams. It be 'tis open deck carrier that Bears tha heavy load burden use & abuse to get its steer paddler in & out of risks with-in tha NE wilds & come-about unscaved. Its just do-en what its maker,by design, has map chart it what to do, to forge an Arrowhead water-way thru!
Purpose propose lay-out be to resolute tha intention of goal, direction of travel destination
designed by a dream desire to " BE Wild + Free"!
Tha canoe be tha 1st + last part of something that will point 1 to tha extreme eastern ends of tha lake & then enable navigator to make a
back-paddle manageable, to main base encampment.
Once tha portage canoe appeares in distance, then to approach near at arrived camp sight, to reach & come to destinations take-out end, it comes into it own with natures wild conquests.
'Tis wood be a benchmark of a "Rite of Passage"
& time fer paddler to come-up with a sacred name emblem of native canoe totem, Heya! |
pine_sap
Member
Post Number: 15
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 8:17 am: |
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Kim,
I stand by Ray Porter paddles. He custom makes them. You tell ray porter the dimensions (Length and width of beaver tail and type of grip) and he will make you a solid ash paddle that is beat by no other. I have a paddle from him that I have put about 5,000 miles on. I have a 7 inch beaver tail with the Main Guide Grip. The paddle flexes perfectly withe very stroke and it pushes my canoe very well.
Now it's been a few years since I have been in contact with Ray Porter, and I have lost his contact info. So maybe someone else can help with that?
I believe John Kilbridge (Temagami Canoe Company) stocks some Ray Porter paddles in his gift shop (or at least he used to). But then again you won't be able to get it made to your own specifications if you buy it there.
I have looked on line for some contact info, but havent found any for him.
Pine_sap |
paul_hammersten
Member
Post Number: 234
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 4:07 pm: |
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Hi Kim
There is a really neat photo on ottertooth.com of a Cree man carving a paddle.
http://www.ottertooth.com/Native_K/mistissini.htm
I have many good paddles over the years but my favorite is the one carved for me by our guide, from Lac Mistassini [ that is how we spoke it back then ], on the Mistissibi.
You might be able to get a Cree paddle today through Mistissini Lodge. [ Has anyone visited the Lodge? ]
http://www.nation.mistissini.qc.ca/chalet_mistissi ni_en.html
Best
Paul |
canoebear
Member
Post Number: 328
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 7:11 pm: |
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"Weather Conditions Seasonen"
Designate dub headen be by its reputation deserved, then much realized.
No hurry to title proper name lable to
1's canoe. It be humble fer naked no-name
portage canoe to go undressed fer many
lamp moon passens seasons.
Its chief significance be to admit renown
distinction of title to come-round in its own
time & way, to ferment, like tha yellow canoe
to be later named "Destiny".
Comfirmation name that be placed on front side
of 1's wilderness canoe be a mirror reflection
of it's make-up mix of, what it 'tis.
A 1st given sign handle marken that realy fits.
Trippen canoe be an extension of tha brave paddler, echoen identity of character temperament.
"Tis batized mover has got, non de plume,
on its own raw exhaust, so be it!
Fer if that so called river runner be prodden
along up headstrong rapids in Cree Lands,
know only by name, Tutoren Turtle, call name.
Once given 'tis flat/or fast water canoe,
its fresh fame name, it can't never
be traded.
Be bad-luck to transform name identity of craft.
Take heed, fer what 1 names it, be what it is,
till it floats no-more.
"Let canoes be ther own true native canoes", Heya!
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rt_kahuna
Member
Post Number: 15
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 7:46 am: |
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Hi Kim, here a few name suggestions for your canoe.
How about "Temagami Bound' or "Save Temagami" or "Temagami Saviour".
You can replace "Temagami" with "Nastawgan" for another variation.
And yet another variation, replace "Temagami" with "Misabi". (You might want to clear this with Alex first).
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rt_kahuna
Member
Post Number: 17
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:52 am: |
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Also, you might want to try "Temagami Traveller" or "Nastawgan Traveller" or "Misabi Traveller".
You could shorten these names to initials such as "TT" or "NT" or "MT"
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kim
Moderator
Post Number: 137
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 7:23 pm: |
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I am going to wait until the fall to name her....or maybe not name her.
We will see how we get along this summer?
I may not even like her.
She is a beauty......but ....so is Paris Hilton.
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nature_freak
Member
Post Number: 13
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 11:59 pm: |
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 Hiya Kim,
Temagami means Deep Water why not... Deep Water Drifter...I also like Driftwood. I also like The Beaver. All in all, it's up too you as you mentioned you might not even like her come the end of summer...maybe if you end up falling in love with her this summer you could call her Summer's End. Anyhow,good luck with her this summer I hope she gives you a great ride. } |
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