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amphib
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 9:02 am: | 
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Any guesses?
How was the snow base this year? Any guess as to comparative spring water levels (avg/below/above)? |
paul_hammersten
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Post Number: 235
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 3:40 pm: |
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Has ' global warming ' affected the/made a pattern of/to ice-offs on the lake?
Best
Paul |
nature_freak
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 5:20 pm: |
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 I perdict that the ice will be off the lake by the 16th of this month..before noon hour! } |
bush_pilot
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 11:12 am: |
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April 28. Still a lot of snow in the bush.
(Message edited by Bush Pilot on April 8, 2006) |
ed
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Post Number: 290
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 6:44 pm: |
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Hey Bush Pilot, I hope you are going to be able to give us some updates again this year.
I think Nature Freak is a bit optimistic, however I would be really pleased to know when the ice goes out of Wawiagama this year, if at all possible.I will certainly be ready to go by April 28th and a lot sooner than that if you give us the word.If it looks as if it is close to breaking up I will be on my way.... |
ed
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Post Number: 291
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 6:54 pm: |
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By the way, most of the ice went out of Lake Temagami last year on or about May 2/3rd.I arrived at Sandy Inlet in the afternoon of May 4th in time to see the last few acres of mostly slushy stuff disappear from Ferguson Bay, by that evening. |
irishfield
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 8:20 pm: |
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April 25th.
Most of it was slush ice this year. Only about 15 inches was real ice..the other 2 feet on top was melted snow/slush.
When I was up March 13th or so the water level was extremely low. Hope the three feet of snow in the bush brings it back to normal. |
ed
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Post Number: 292
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 8:31 am: |
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Hey, I like your date Irishfield.The next 2 weeks are supposed to be above average temperatures for Temagami.... so it might happen.
Of course the ice will go out early and the back roads will be impassable..... |
bush_pilot
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Post Number: 85
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 9:16 am: |
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I'm sticking with my prediction. Wawiagama eh, okay Ed I'll keep you posted. North of Lake Wahapitae, across to Florence, Makobe etc. there is lots of snow and the lakes look very firm. |
tsm
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 4:30 pm: |
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OK.....I'm going to sneak in April 24th a la Price is Right! Sorry Wayne Yeah, with the weird weather we had this winter, it certainly made for lousy ice conditions. Adding the fact that Temagami got lots of snow, so I think (hope) the ice will come off early this year too.
BTW Ed, what route are you doing this year. Be sure to post a trip report once you get back...always enjoy reading your posts. |
ed
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Post Number: 293
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 6:47 pm: |
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I am not really good with trip reports, but I will try.
This year, I am going to start at Wawiagama, go down Obabika to the Sturgeon then down to Kelly Lake (Ohzway?), into Maskinonge to Chiniguchi, up to Stouffer, over to the Sturgeon again, South to Pilgrim Creek area and into Yorston.
North through Yorston and over to Pinetorch CR, then East to Nasmith Creek and South to Lahay Lake.Then North to Obabika Lake and back to Wawiagama.I have never been West of the Sturgeon, so I am keen to explore this area a bit and it has been a few years since I have gone down Nasmith Creek for any distance.Oh and if time permits, I want to locate the elusive Pinetorch Tower and trail up to it.I have seen this thing from the East shore of Oabaika looking West,through a telephoto lens but I missed it the last time I was on Pinetorch.(It was raining and overcast,with a very low ceiling). |
tsm
Member
Post Number: 54
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 7:40 pm: |
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Ed
That sounds like an awesome trip!!! |
ed
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Post Number: 294
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 8:34 am: |
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Should be a good Spring "tune up" trip for the Summer's events. |
bush_pilot
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 4:46 pm: |
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Ed:
I just got back from flying over your route. A long way to go yet, even the logging roads are still snow covered up that way. The only open water I saw was the Sturgeon, Obabika and Wawiagama rivers and a few shoals and narrows on Obabika and L. Temagami are open, they look as if you could easily snowmobile on the lakes.
How are you getting into Wawiagama? |
ed
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Post Number: 295
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 8:32 pm: |
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Bush Pilot:
I was speaking to my Obabika friend today and he said he was still snowmobiling his way out the logging road that joins up with the 805, but he was beginning to think that lake travel was getting a bit unpredictable.
So I don't expect to be able to drive in to Wawiagama for a while yet and then after the road does open it will be real mushy and not be driveable for a few more days depending on the weather.
Of course if it opens and then gets below freezing at night, I might be able to pass over it,....... while it sleeps.
But I know if it gets me, it will get me good and it will take many hours and much effort to get unstuck.
The road monster waits....... and I wait to.
Thanks for the update. I can see that it is going to be a while yet. |
nature_freak
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:25 am: |
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Hi to all again, yes I guess I am being optimistic, but I can't wait to see the sun sparkle refelected off the water.I'm tired of winter and the spring thaw is just not melting quick enough for me.
I have family that live on Bear Island and they have stopped traveling by skidoo as of the last two days. It is too risky to chance. They were following one route one day and the next day had to reroute as the trail they had been on had opened up over night. There is not as much ice as people think there is and alot of it was bad slush ice. The ice that people think is still good and strong is eroding from the bottom as it started off as slush ice, then refroze. A few people have gone through the ice at the mine landing and a few have gone through with their machines in the past couple of days. I beleive the ice will be off the lake before the 24th of this month.
The heavy snowfall this year pushed the ice down and it didn't really have a chance to get hold of the shore. I live on Net Lake and it has let go of the shoreline, as you can see the dark water mark all around the entire area of the lake.
My sister has told me this is also the case near Bear Island. Some of the places she has mentioned to me that are open now, are usually the last to open up, which has been the case for the past many years.
It might surprise us all and hold out for a while, but I think if we get some strong windy days within the next week, we will see it breakup very quickly.
Hey, Four or five years ago, I watched it breakup on Lake Temagami. Within a space of about four hours the lake was free and clear of ice. Rick Lockheart drove me to the mine landing in his covered boat. A good strong wind and we could see a repeat of this phenomenon.} |
kevin
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 04-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:54 am: |
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How much does the water level drop on Lake Temagami in the winter ? I know the Level on LE really goes down after they pull the cork in the dam in the fall. I'm guessing 8-10'. I bet the rivers are really running strong with the final snow meltdown. |
tsm
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Post Number: 55
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 4:10 pm: |
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Nature_freak
Thanks for the update! I gotta feeling this will be one of the earliest ice outs for Lake Temagami in years.
I rent a cottage from Rick every year....looking forward to getting up there!! |
ed
Moderator
Post Number: 296
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 5:56 pm: |
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Well according to Weather Network, there are 9 more days of above average temperatures for the Temagami Area before it goes South again.
So maybe that ice will go out early this year.
I think I will go back into hibernation mode for another week and a bit. |
kim
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Post Number: 144
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 9:12 pm: |
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ed
Do you trust those white guys at the Weather Network?
They have lead me astray a time or two. |
hillbilly
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Post Number: 182
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 11:32 pm: |
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Kim,
Many white guys have lead you astray, Ed encluded.
Bill |
skippy
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:47 am: |
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I can guarantee you that people will be going out by boat by the 28th of april.. In a few days i may need to ammend it to the 21.. |
amphib
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 5:05 pm: |
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Looking at the satellite shot today (13th) it looks like the melt is picking up steam. I've decided on the 28th for my first trip. The excitement builds! |
ghost_brigade
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 04-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 11:18 pm: |
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Ed happy wandering, hope to travel in some of the same country this fall. No predictions on ice out, but here is a little peice that may get you a whee bit excited. From Cache Lake Country by John J. Rowlands.
"The break up has come and the ice is out of Cache lake! It started early one morning and when I woke up and heard a muffled rumbling sound coming through the darkness from the head of the lake I knew what it meant. There is no mistaking the thunder of ice going out. Chief Tibeash and Hank heard it, too, and when they came over we went up to the carry to watch the sight that next to geese coming north means more to us than anything else that happens in early spring.
Just above the rapids where Lost Chief Stream gets into the Manitoupeepagee River, the ice jammed on the rocks and the water flooded over the banks and rushed down through the woods in a frothing torrent that kept us up on the ridge. It was not long though before the jam broke and the great blocks of ice, some as big as a wagon bed, came thundering down the main stream. You wouldn't know there were any rapids then, just tossing gray ice riding water black and cold and powerful." |
kim
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Post Number: 146
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 9:49 pm: |
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Long term forecast is:
18 C by April 20
Sunny days are coming |
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