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paul_hammersten
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Post Number: 268
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 9:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

The Grey Owl Wilderness Area - yes.

www.wa-sha-quan-asin.4t.com
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firehorse
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Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 1:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Paul, you have a beautiful website. Good on ya, brother.

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chris
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 03-2006


Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 9:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

With regards to this statement:

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I fear others might use the terms "fraud" or "phoney" and apply them to the notion that this is in fact an attempt to preserve a "great tract of pristine wilderness."




While I am not a dissenting voice - the notion that the current direction that we are presently travelling will ultimately preserve a "great tract of pristine wilderness" might be a bit of a stretch. I damn well hope I'm proved wrong...

In reality, the one Wilderness Park in the District presently has a road running through it. The remaining Parks are of the Waterway variety which, for the most part, offer little more than veneers of protection for one's line of sight. The Crown Land Areas (segmented into sub-zones) are open to roads and resource extraction. Finally the Conservation Reserves fall somewhere between the aforementioned.

About 20% of the total Management Area has some form of designated protection. This area is of course part of a larger wilderness area that has even less.

What this 20% will actually mean for the Temagami area in practical terms, and how the remainder will be used is before us now. Via the TIP and the TLUP.

There are many of views of AB, at one time on this board there were some very vocal and negative posts from the local community regarding him.

Personally, I like the "The Grey Owl Wilderness Area" and I have nothing but respect and admiration for that individual and what he wrote and for the things he was able to achieve. However, we had better make sure that the local community agrees.

Most importantly, we must ensure - in perpetuity - that this area will be worthy of both the name Grey Owl AND the term Wilderness. There must be real merit to that latter word and not just a facade or marketing ploy, or else we do a disservice to both.

Chris
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paul_t
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Of all the suggestions I have seen so far, the name I like best is Temagami National Park. That’s not going to happen with Temagami Integrated Planning, but hopefully something positive will emerge with lots of input from concerned parties.

I admire Grey Owl for all the reasons discussed above and can also appreciate why some local residents do not like him as a person. I sure hope most Canadians have heard of him, I know many Americans have. As far as being a fraud, he is not that different from the canoeists I have met, he just took it a step, or maybe many, steps further. We are all playing Cowboys and Indians in the woods. It’s half the fun.
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alscool
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Post Number: 119
Registered: 02-2004


Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 1:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Much of the conservation ethics that Grey Owl stood for was the preservation of wildlife. It was when he fostered the two beaver kits that he had trapped and killed their parents that he gave up his livelihood of trapping and became renowned for his efforts through his writing and speaking engagements.

One would think that to honor his name in a wilderness reserve, the area would have to be hunting and trap line free.
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chris
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Post Number: 50
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Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 1:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Paul,

You might be surprised by how little most Canadians know of the land, history and people. I wish I could say that I was different, but that just ain't the case. Americans seem to revel in their past while Canadians largely ingore it.

I must admit to being a bit uncomfortable with the notion that I'm either playing Cowboy or pretending to be an Indian. I don't think that fits all of us - I'd rather play Voyageur instead!

Chris
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canoebear
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Post Number: 383
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 4:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

"As Tha Bells Told"

Notice gut shot moose lyen still dead,
over ther, next to beaver pond, in tha
Autumn Fall hush.
U can pretend that it isn't ther & move on/or
U can tell that U saw it & it's distracted U sum.
However mus awkward, address-it & then get on with tha reality of it, so to carry-on & portage-thru.
It be human nature to avoid confrontation with
woodlanders go-en-ons.
'Tis gives rhyme + reason to now raise an issue,
that they believe is tha way of ther bush interests.
"Beware of tha dead moose"!
'Tis wood be any thing that festers denoted to a thorney issue tha type people fixate on & think bout contantly, while simultaneausly moven round.
Tha tale of tha bell told, be a chinne behavior
assertion of progessive bold brazen that annoy/or
provoke tha olfactory nerve.
All wildlife R protected from mooz hunters &
trappen-go-en-ons in 'tis here crown jewel preserve since it formation in 1925.
Not so!
Al-so-cool be "Dead-On"!
1 wood think to honor fer wilderness keep-sake,
that tha NE watery woodlands be free & clear of
furBearen extraction, but be abit fraudulent.

Lorsqu'un danger approche, la femelle rele've
la queue pour montrer la partie blanche situ'ee au-dessous de sa queue et avertir ainsi les autres membres de la troupe.

I'm just a bewildered by conservation ethics of preservation of woods & water world-wide, Heya!



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firehorse
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Nice poetry, canoebear. I like it.
There be room in this WILDERNESS
fer all PROSE and CONS.

No swords need cross as another deeper
awareness dawns.
Heya!
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canoebear
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Post Number: 384
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 3:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

"Grey Owl Hoot Reserved"

My eyes cry-out what my clapperclaw lips fear to say about tha Fallen.
firehorse, "seeker of tha truth",
who hear hoots of reflections in tha north's silence.
Who, who,
Who cooks fer U,
Who, who, Heya!
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chris
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 03-2006


Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 8:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Who indeed?
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firehorse
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

My friends, I'll be back at ya
when I dry off out here - BC.
Too busy boiling water. Feels like
I'm back on the road in my Asia travels.
We Canadians take our fresh water fer granted.
When the rest of the world comes for it - well,
we'll be glad we still got some huntin rifles in the attic! (even if tourism has left us nowhere to hunt)

I knew you'd like that canoebear.

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