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bluemoose
Member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 10:31 pm: | 
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I am tempted to attend the meeting in Toronto this week, and was wondering if anyone has seen a legible summary of the current plan (not encased in bureaucratic gobbltygook!). Also, if any thought has been given to the protection of wildlife in some areas. |
chris
Member
Post Number: 39
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 3:43 pm: |
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Which Plan are you referring to?
The meetings are your chance to find out where things stand in the Rec. Man. Planning Process, where things are heading and your oppourtunity to Q&A the MNR and raise issues that you believe are important.
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ed
Moderator
Post Number: 372
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 9:04 am: |
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bluemoose:
Unfortunately there is no summary that let's one develop an understanding of land use planning, in the Temagami Area, in an easy fashion, as many of us have found out. All of the plans are intertwined with each other, such that you have to read them all to begin to understand what is trying to be accomplished.
The TLUP (Temagami Land Use Plan, 1997) is the first attempt at defining the direction for land use in this area. The TIP (Temagami Integrated Plan , started in 2005) that is being worked on right now, was mandated by the TLUP and attempts to develop a Recreation Management Plan for the area covered by the TLUP. Reading these plans is tough slogging, for neophytes like ourselves, but that is the only way to develop an understanding of the process that is underway and determine how we as canoeists might be able to influence that process. And yes the plan(s) do attempt to protect wildlife in some of the planning areas. |
bluemoose
Member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 9:47 am: |
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Thanks Chris and Ed. I hadn't heard of any plans to protect wildlife, so it is great to learn that this is under consideration. Can you point me to the written references to this?
I do understand the processes involved, having given much thought and input into the Land Use Plan developed back in the '70's, prior to the Caution. While I am keenly interested in the continuing saga, I tend to throw up my hands in despair as the issues are the same now as they were then. I fear that my children will be hearing the same arguments in another 30 years! They may be talking about TLIP's, TIP's or whatever, but the issues will be the same. My fear is that Temagami will be FUBAR'd.
Personally, I love the idea of forming some form of Park encompassing much of the area. The reason I like this route is because it would give more permanence and stability to the area. The same issues on the table now would have to be resolved once and for all, with the intention of creating a permanent solution. Not a plan that would be reviewed and tinkered with every X years.
I know there are many different kinds of "Parks", and surely we could develop a plan that would fall into one (or more) of the categories.
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ed
Moderator
Post Number: 373
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 8:46 am: |
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bluemoose:
There are no written references to protecting wildlife and I probably should have worded that a bit differently.
If we get some of the stuff we have been asking for in the Parks, such as road closures, snowmobile trail restrictions through LESWPP, bridge removals, ATV restrictions etc., I think that will help to protect wildlife and fish populations in the Parks and some of the CR's.
No doubt, there are some here who will object to these efforts. |
paul_t
Member
Post Number: 53
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 11:23 am: |
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Bluemoose
The MNR has stated throughout the Temagami Integrated Planning that there will be no new parks created as a result of this process. That’s not to say it’s not worth making your opinion heard.
You have probably figured out by now that there are multiple steps to the TIP process and an actual plan has not been released yet. Go to http://nastawgan.ca (Integrated Planning page) for a bit dated synopsis.
The current step is that the MNR has identified a group of “key” issues. These issues were identified through previous meetings, public input and god knows how else. A Management Options Workbook with multiple options to choose from for each issue was released for public comment in August.
If you would like a copy of the Options Workbook regarding these “key issues”
with consensus answers provided by the Nastawgan Network email this address: onecanoe@nastawgan.ca. This at least could provide you with some background info and food for thought prior to the meeting.
The only specific provision I can think of related to wildlife protection is a request for comments regarding fisheries management in the wilderness and waterway parks. However many other issues indirectly involve wildlife protection as Ed has said.
The next step with Temagami Integrated Planning will be a preliminary management plan.
Good luck.
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