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preacher Member
Post Number: 8 Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Monday, June 9, 2008 - 1:55 pm: |
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August 30 - September 6 Circuit from the 20km access road on L. Temagami. Night1 - Temagami Night2 - Obabika Night3 - Rest, book a tour with Alex Night4 - Through Wakimika to Daimond Night5 - Rest on Daimond Night6 - Temagami Night7 - Temagami Night8 - Home Any suggestions for things to do or avoid are always appreciated. |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 895 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 10:18 am: |
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You might want to cut back on time on Lake Temagami and spend more time in the quieter, remoter leg of the trip. |

marty_s Member
Post Number: 14 Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 2:23 pm: |
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Instead of starting at the 20K access road, drive through Temagami and drive down the Red Squirrel road . Bumpy, but puts you in a quieter ( and less wind prone part of the lake ) . |

alscool Moderator
Post Number: 161 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 2:49 pm: |
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X2 Consider putting in at Sandy Inlet, Camp Wannpetai and take the Canton Lakes through to Bob Lake and then head down to Obabika via Shish Kong Lake. Your proposed Lake Temagami route will be a long paddle on big water, not my 'cup of tea'. |

preacher Member
Post Number: 9 Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 4:38 pm: |
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So stay off L Temagami, eh? Back to the maps! I really want to expose a couple friends to the Obabika sights, and see them for myself too. Old growth & shishkong + I haven't seen the petroglyphs or grandma'n'pa rock. |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 901 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 6:38 pm: |
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Don't stay off the lake completely, just use for quick transit to the backcountry. |

rickt Member
Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 12:48 pm: |
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A few years back there were water taxis available for hire on L. Temagami. You might want to look into it. The taxi could transport your group & gear from L. Temagami to Obabika Inlet portage or Diamond Lake portage. It would save time on L.Temagami. I am not sure of cost or even if it still available or within your budget.
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brian Moderator
Post Number: 902 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 2:27 pm: |
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Temagami Outfitting also does L Temagami shuttles. http://www.icanoe.ca/
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alscool Moderator
Post Number: 162 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 4:14 pm: |
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Only the rich and famous can afford the shuttle. It was like $9 a mile last summer before the crazy gas prices. Don't quote me on that price. |

rickt Member
Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 7:57 am: |
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I agree, they are costly, but maybe the Preacher is rich and famous |

preacher Member
Post Number: 11 Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 3:41 pm: |
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$250 I'm not that rich and certainly not famous. Infamous mabey, but that never counts in a good way. Back to the maps. Red Squirrel seems to be the way to go. I might opt for the Canton Lakes instead of Wakamika. Maybe go the other direction: Red Squirrel > Diamond > Wakamika > Obabika > Canton > Diamond > Red Squirrel. I need to find Sandy Inlet on the map to see those options. (Message edited by Preacher on June 13, 2008) |

gudwulf Member
Post Number: 35 Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 5:39 pm: |
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Preacher... I HIGHLY recommend the Red Squirrel > Sandy Inlet > Ferguson Bay > North Arm > Sharp Rock Inlet> Diamond (petroglyphs are on rock face on west side up toward Lady Evelyn) >(maybe up a day into south Lady Evelyn which has a beautiful 'extended' rock campsite ~ and back to Diamond) Wakamika > Obabika > Obabika Inlet > Devil Bay > Furguson Bay loop. You will see sandy beaches, sparkling waters, rocks the size of houses, the old logging trace, an escar, an old logging camp (straight north of the campsite at the west end of Diamond across the escar), the sand of Wakimika > the Wakimika River with a couple of beaver dam step-overs and the 40' deep clear water of Obabika with fish the size of your forearm! We did the leisurly loop in 10 days in '94, but I have been told it can be done in 7-8 days if you are on a tight schedule. However, if you want to show your friends the true pleasure of the backcountry, allow a couple extra days. |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 903 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 6:05 pm: |
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Just so no one gets confused, petroglyphs are rock carvings, and pictographs are paintings or drawings. Diamond's rock art are pictographs. I used to confuse the two myself. |

gudwulf Member
Post Number: 36 Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 6:03 pm: |
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Thank you, Brian, for correcting my error. The markings on Diamond are, in deed, pictographs. As always, you are on top of things on this forum. It is truly a spiritual blessing to canoe over to these sights and think of the people that originally placed them there so many, many, many years ago. I often wonder what they might have used to make these markings that have lasted through the decades. That they are on a north facing vertical rock has preserved them, I'm sure, but still, the make up of the painting substance surely is remarkable. I wonder if the substance has ever been analized? By the way, Preacher, the route suggested takes you down the Wakamika River, a nice easy drift if you would like to cast for northern pike ~ whch put up quite a tussel in the river grass! |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 906 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 11:33 am: |
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The colouring comes from ochre. |

preacher Member
Post Number: 12 Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 4:29 pm: |
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Thanks for the tips. Squishing a nice 10 day trip into an 8 day trip isn't a good plan for us. At least two of the 4, not sure who the 4th will be yet, are lilly-dippers. There needs to be at least 2 camp days, preferably 3. |

marty_s Member
Post Number: 15 Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 10:03 am: |
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If you start from Red Squirrel Rd, you have way more time than you need, lilydippers or not . You can do that loop in 2 days if you put your mind to it . |

preacher Member
Post Number: 13 Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 3:56 pm: |
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I and one of my more adventurous tripping partners could. I and these guys who are awake and looking for the coffee pot at the crack of noon...well... They're lucky to get 3 hours of travel each day before calling it quits. |

hillbilly Member
Post Number: 307 Registered: 03-2004

| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:25 pm: |
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preacher, Send me a PM on OAC. Bill |

cascade Member
Post Number: 16 Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 10:19 pm: |
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hhhmmmm Preacher... I personally like the three hour a day paddle idea... We rise early and well rested, strike the site and launch by 8:30 a.m. Then we paddle on what is usually calm to slightly burbling lake water for three hours or so. By then the water is gaining energy and ferocity, so we pull the canoe, set up a new camp, have a great cold lunch,nap a bit, maybe "canoddle" the shore and area around us. We have 10 day trips that are fun, relaxing, and which suit us perfectly. You can easily do Mowat to Maple and back that way... and hardly ever deal with power waves and lack of campsites! |

preacher Member
Post Number: 15 Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 5:05 pm: |
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Well finding a fourth that would fit into our group is proving to be difficult. We three have known each other for years and that dynamic can be...competitive/aggresive. You know how it is with old friends, conversations from 20 years ago can easily resurface. Group dynamics on a trip is nothing to trifle with. So if I have to solo and the two who have never taken the time to learn a simple J are together, big lakes are out of the picture. Travel has to be limited to <10km/day. Yeah I can do more solo, I just don't feel like it. Any ideas? We have to rent a canoe and there isn't room for 2 canoes on my little Sunfire, so the access point matters. We're poor, so $500 fly-in doesn't work either. We may have to wait a year for Temagami and head to APP where the lakes are smaller and the portages longer. |