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brian Moderator
Post Number: 1616 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Monday, June 2, 2014 - 9:30 am: |
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The portage into the north end of Dees Lake is now shorter than the one shown on earlier maps. Instead of 1.3 km, it is now 1 km. It also does not have a horrible bog to cross by the Dees Lake landing. This is a good shortcut when heading upstream on the South Lady Evelyn River to Florence from the North Evelyn River or Chance Lake. This is not to be confused with the long-time "Shortcut" farther downstream between the main Lady Evelyn River and the South Lady Evelyn River. Both of these are shown on this map: http://www.ottertooth.com/Temagami/Maps/heartland0 8.htm
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jonebgood Member
Post Number: 20 Registered: 06-2010

| Posted on Sunday, June 8, 2014 - 4:46 pm: |
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A few questions regarding this area: 1. Can the Liskeard Lumber road be travelled in a 2 wheel drive car from Beauty Rd to Gamble Lake ? 2. Is there vehicle parking at the Gamble Lake or Chance Lake put-in (or nearby)? 3. Can the route from Gamble Lake to Florence Lake via North LER, Dees Lake and South LER be paddled in both directions? i.e. any significant current to deal with travelling upstream?
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brian Moderator
Post Number: 1619 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Monday, June 9, 2014 - 8:44 am: |
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Yes to all your questions. Once you get onto the South Lady Evelyn after the Dees crossover, the only place where current is an issue is White Rock Rapids. In high water there are 3 narrows just above the rapids that could require some power paddling to get through. Otherwise, you won't notice any current. The rule of thumb of parking in Temagami is that it is virtually everywhere. |

jonebgood Member
Post Number: 21 Registered: 06-2010

| Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2014 - 11:42 am: |
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Thank you for the info. On Florence Lake, is there a place to portage across the narrow isthmus at the "sand dam" to get from the north half to the south half of the lake? |

alscool Moderator
Post Number: 390 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2014 - 2:04 pm: |
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Yes, anywhere on the "sand dam", it is apparent. |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 1622 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 9:25 am: |
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My oversight to have left that off the map (fixed now). A good part of the Sand Dam is a ridge, but it is obvious when you get there where the narrow, flat crossover is. Beside The Good Tent, of course. http://www.ottertooth.com/Temagami/Maps/heartland0 8.htm
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rane Member
Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2014
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 2:09 pm: |
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is the original route that followed the road almost to Dees Lake from the old bridge still passable? Or is the new route good enough to use one with one of those folding canoe carts with bicycle tires? I have a canoe portage cart I wanted to try next week on that route, before relying on it on a much longer portage. |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 1627 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 8:41 am: |
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Neither route will take a cart along its entire length. The original route did not follow a road its full length. It was cut over a rocky hill and crosses a bog. The newer route also follows old roads for much it. |

jonebgood Member
Post Number: 26 Registered: 06-2010

| Posted on Friday, August 8, 2014 - 10:03 am: |
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If wishing to paddle from Florence Lake to Gamble Lake by paddling down the south LER, then up the north LER, can either of the following routes be used? A. from White Rock Rapids, follow the portage route to north LER via Dees Lake. (400 m + 1000 m) B. from White Rock Rapids, follow the south LER all the way down to the Forks (confluence with North LER), then paddle back up the north LER to Gamble. Is route B subject to low water problems or obstructions/liftovers etc? Is route B a credible alternative if one prefers paddling over portaging? (i.e. willing to paddle a longer windy river than make the portages through Dees) I presume route B would take longer than A.
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grncnu Member
Post Number: 353 Registered: 08-2010
| Posted on Friday, August 8, 2014 - 11:44 pm: |
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Cannot comment on A, but B is not shallow or full of obstructions. Actually I've always liked that stretch. We once came upon a bear right in that winding section, neck deep in the river, about 10 feet in front of our canoe as we came around one of those tight bends. Fastest backpaddling we've ever done!! |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 1646 Registered: 02-2004

| Posted on Saturday, August 9, 2014 - 10:09 am: |
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Route B will be fine this summer as there is enough water. I would always recommend B during downriver travel, unless the water was very low or you were single-loading it and in a hurry. Or the bear told you to stay away. |