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brian Moderator
Post Number: 1716 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Tuesday, September 1, 2015 - 10:16 am: |
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I was just on the road to Twinkle Lake: http://ottertooth.com/Temagami/Maps/heartland01b.h tm As has been noted on various threads over the past few years, the road is deteriorating. It is dramatic beyond the Obabika bridge. It is still an ATV road (and lots of that) beyond that point, but unless you are experienced with backroads and have a good vehicle, I would not recommend road-vehicle travel past that bridge. You will come to a dangerous sink hole, probably the one dion_g describes in another thread, on the bank of the Obabika. It is a one-way plunge if it collapses under a vehicle. And that is just the beginning of the challenges... |

eddy_turn Member
Post Number: 71 Registered: 03-2011

| | Posted on Tuesday, September 1, 2015 - 9:46 pm: |
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Brian, I understood that the "dion_g hole" is not on the Obabika, but at the Yorston bridge turnoff, which is slightly further traveling north. One hole or two, I won't drive there again, not in my car. |

neotericpilgrim Member
Post Number: 14 Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, October 8, 2015 - 10:51 pm: |
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I was there september 22nd. I Crossed the Obabika then turned back about 2km past the bridge as the road has gotten a little rought and grown in. It's still passable but I was getting tired of the dirty looks I got from the hunters and their ATV's when they meet up with me taking up the whole road lol |

neotericpilgrim Member
Post Number: 15 Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, October 8, 2015 - 10:53 pm: |
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Brian, I seen no sing of construction for the new road to Bull... I thought for sure they would use this road as an access?? any more information on this road? |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 1721 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 - 8:01 am: |
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They will use this road. However, they are trying to undue the previous decision on the rejection of the bridge over the Sturgeon, so may be delaying work in the hope of getting it as an alternate to coming in on this road. |

eddy_turn Member
Post Number: 72 Registered: 03-2011

| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 - 11:32 am: |
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Is there a public campaign to join against such an attempt, to build a Sturgeon bridge? FOT? |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 1723 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2015 - 11:03 am: |
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I would check with FOT. |

curly Member
Post Number: 486 Registered: 03-2006

| | Posted on Monday, October 19, 2015 - 11:35 am: |
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This issue was discussed at the FOT AGM this past Saturday in Temagami. The idea of a new bridge through the Sturgeon River Provincial Park, in violation of the 2007 Park Management Plan, has been proposed twice before. We have supported the existing Park Plan both times, and both times the bridge proposal was denied by Ontario Parks. We are aware that the bridge proposal is being revived by Vermillion Forest Management again. Our understanding is that a new crossing would require an amendment to both the Crown Land Use Policy Atlas as well as the Park Management Plan, both of which would require public consultation. As of today, there is no public consultation and thus no proposal to comment on. However, it is likely that a public consultation could begin before the end of the year. FOT remains in support of the 2007 Park Management Plan, which was approved after extensive consultation with industry and the public. The Park Plan does not permit a new crossing of the Sturgeon River Provincial Park. If there is a public consultation, we will be there to defend the Park Plan as it stands. As the President of FOT, I encourage everyone who has an interest in this matter to stay tuned. If the bridge proposal comes to a public consultation, we will be looking for help. That might take the form of letter writing, attending meetings, or other actions. I would also encourage everyone who supports FOT's position on this (or other) issues to become a member or make a donation. FOT is an all-volunteer organization, so we rely on everyday people to make things happen. We take the little money we have and make it go a long way, so please consider becoming a member or donating. http://www.friendsoftemagami.org/become-a-friend/ Bob Olajos, President Friends of Temagami |

grncnu Member
Post Number: 395 Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - 1:03 am: |
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Where EXACTLY would this bridge go across?? Sorry I'm not up on this at all.} |

curly Member
Post Number: 487 Registered: 03-2006

| | Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - 12:01 pm: |
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The bridge proposed by Vermillion Forest Management, which has been rejected twice by Ontario Parks, would cross near where Selkirk Creek flows in, between Eaglenest Lake and Lyman Lake. There is already a road built basically to the park boundary on the southern side. All they need is a bridge to access the timber on the other side. The road corridor is labelled Solace Roads Alternative 1&2 in the image below. The currently approved access road corridor crosses the Obabika River and comes in from the east. It is labelled Solace Road Alternative 4 in the image.
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curly Member
Post Number: 488 Registered: 03-2006

| | Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - 12:05 pm: |
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