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mac_harper
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Registered: 03-2013
Posted on Friday, March 8, 2013 - 7:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I'm trying to map a 1955 trip and need to locate the Indian Portage as accurately as possible. Tony Way has been a great help - he was on that trip with me. GPS coordinates and/or marked map or Google Earth snapshot would be very helpful.
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doublebend
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Posted on Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 4:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Not familiar with a portage by that name. What lakes does it connect?
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darlh
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Posted on Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 4:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Assuming the portage in question is Timiskaming to Kipawa (Laniel), logging will have re-routed the trail east of Timiskaming. I think some youth groups are still using it though.

Good luck.
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daveb
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Posted on Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 6:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

There are three portages between Kipawa at Laniel and Temiskaming. The third portage of about 3900 meters runs from Troisieme lac du Portage du Sauvage down to Temiskaming. It's blazed with ribbons and is regularly used. There are campsites at either end.

The first two portages are about 1200 and 250 meters respectively.

Google maps shows the Temiskaming terminus of the portage at approximately 46.999778,-79.332619.

It's easy to recognize the western end from the water because of the giant log that has to be crossed to load the canoes.

Temiskaming_a

Temiskaming_b
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mac_harper
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Posted on Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Thanks for the info and photos. Can you identify original Temiskaming takeout on Google Earth?
Try this link: http://www.geodata.us/canada_names_maps/maps.php?f eatureid=EHSOQ&f=172
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grncnu
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Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 1:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

one of the upper portages is accessible by road from near laniel. it goes around a really impressive falls- don't recall the name though.
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daveb
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Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 9:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

These are the three segments from Laniel to Temiskaming that constitute the Indian portage.

First portage

Second portage

Long portage

Note that Google gives lat/longs using decimal notation rather than minutes/seconds, etc.
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mac_harper
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Posted on Monday, March 11, 2013 - 9:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Thanks, Daveb and all - This has been a great help to the project and a lot of fun for me. There are at least 10 others who will enjoy the benefits of your knowledge.
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mac_harper
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Posted on Monday, March 11, 2013 - 9:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Where can I find canoeing routes or "trail maps" in the Temagami region?
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ed
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Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 7:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Go here:
http://www.friendsoftemagami.org/index.php/back

Also there are many route descriptions published here on
ottertooth.com

Let us know where you want to go and we can try point you in the right direction.
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daveb
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Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

That canoe planning map is absolutely gorgeous. Pure 100% canoe porn.

Hap Wilson's book is a great resource too.

Mac, I probably have some period trip notes that might be useful to you. I can also give you the reference names and numbers for 1:50,000 topographic maps for the Quebec region. Plus some other archival material from around 1955. The attached photo is from that summer.

Contact me through the camp office or via the webmaster.

Good luck. Dave B.

Tony Way
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ed
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Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 7:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Dave:
The FoT map maker is alscool, who hangs out here sometimes. I sent him an email last night so that he is aware of your offer.
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mac_harper
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Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

It's like being among old friends, reliving that summer. This photo is Section B from 1955. We need to identify front row left, #1 and #3. We're missing one name, and sending DVD movies of the trip to all we can find.
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mac_harper
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Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 1:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Thanks, Dave, for the info and photo. I looked up your email, but it bounced.
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alscool
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Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 1:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Dave, can you email me at email@friendsoftemagami.org
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mac_harper
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Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 5:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Dave,

I would like very much to see your period notes. I can presently download 1:50,000 topo maps using my DeLorme Topo North America. I haven't heard of Hap Wilson's book - what is it, where to buy?

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ed
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Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 7:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Mac-harper:
Go here for info on Haps book:
http://www.ottertooth.com/Temagami/Wilson/sneak.ht m

There is a huge amount of info on ottertooth .com. Go to the top of this page, click on Temagami and you will get to it.
The owner of the site, Brian Back , has spent the past ~ 15 years developing the site and the info.

Hap's books can be purchased in most outdoor stores, including MEC in Toronto. (Not sure where you are located)
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daveb
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Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Mac, The Friends of Temagami have my contact info at the address above. That photo is not one we have in the camp archives so far as I know. Not sure that a section list exists for that year, but you might be able to garner names from other material I have from that period.

Here's the Annual Plaque for 1955.
Not many photos from that year in the Old Scrapbook.

I also have a complete set of the Tattler newsletters for that year that I can send you.

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