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kingbiscuit43 Member
Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 3, 2007 - 9:55 am: |
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I've traveled APP quite often but would love to trip into Temagami. From a couple of maps I've found through MYCCR it seems many of the lakes have cottages, luxury homes, and plenty of horsepower...Can anyone suggest a route without the ATVs, Seadoos, boats, etc.? We don't mind the portages (moderate >p1000 would be ideal)but seek solitude... |

brian Moderator
Post Number: 757 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Monday, September 3, 2007 - 10:04 am: |
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This might help: http://www.ottertooth.com/Temagami/Canoeing/solitu de.htm
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hillbilly Member
Post Number: 246 Registered: 03-2004

| | Posted on Monday, September 3, 2007 - 7:32 pm: |
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The one portage rule not always work. Mowat Landing to the Lady Evelyn Lake 1 portage, motor boats are still there. Lake Temagami into Diamond lake 1 portage, motor boats are still there. Lake Temagami to Obabika Lake, motor boats are still there. There are also many boat catches on many interior lake. So the one portage rule does not exist unless you know where to go and the right access point. Bill |

sundown Member
Post Number: 192 Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 3, 2007 - 10:20 pm: |
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KB43 East Montreal Works... put in Edith, and you're good to sisseney. (Several alternative routeonce you are on the system) West Montreal works, cross Penassi and you're good to Mistinikon Makobe River put in at Elk Lake, and you're good to Banks/Makobe Lake (or climb west face of Maple Mountain) Sidney system, put in at Longpoint and youre good to Sidney Lake. There are lots of private routes out there. Sundown Medelsohn Off the Montreal, and you're good to Maple Mountain.
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brian Moderator
Post Number: 758 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 - 10:15 am: |
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Hillbilly, Obabika and Lady Evelyn lakes do not apply as they are either road-accessible or not limited to access by canoe portage only. This leaves Diamond. There are always exceptions to every rule, but it doesn't mean it isn't a good rule of thumb. |

hillbilly Member
Post Number: 247 Registered: 03-2004

| | Posted on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 - 10:36 pm: |
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Yes Brian you are right but I also left out Willow Island Lake & Sucker Gut Lake. They also have motor boats. The there are Lady Dufferin, Smoothwater, along with many lake near by these. Also the Sturgeon River and countless other lakes & rivers. To me the TIP did not do that much. When I was on Lady Evelyn & Sucker Gut this tear we had to turn our canoes into the boat wake because the fishing boats came down the lake full speed and did not care about us. They only wanted to get to there fishing spot as fast and as soon as they could. The MNR should have placed a motor size limit on all the lake in the Temagami area to under 10hp. I had mentioned that to John Salo and he said he would take it under advisement but it looks as if nothing came about. |

rallupae Member
Post Number: 10 Registered: 08-2007

| | Posted on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 - 9:36 am: |
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... and don't forget the lazy saps who we saw having their canoes towed by a motor boat towards Maple Mountain. Likely towed as far as the entrance to Hobart. Where is the adventure in that? I agree - seeing as it is a Park, motor limits needs to be enforced, or abolished altogether. I do have to say that is was really nice to stay on Hobart and Tupper for a couple of days - boats cannot pass. Ned |

alscool Moderator
Post Number: 150 Registered: 02-2004

| | Posted on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 - 10:34 am: |
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Careful Ned, the local annishnabe would likely travel to Maple Mountain by motor boat and you maybe damming the very peoples you were looking to acknowledge |

rallupae Member
Post Number: 14 Registered: 08-2007

| | Posted on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 - 3:05 pm: |
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Not looking to insult those that I respect at all. I don't see how any motor boat could pass the rocky narrows into Hobart anyhow. Furthermore, I was more criticizing those two canoes being towed by boat to the entrance to Hobart. What's wrong with a little 2 days paddle to get there, I ask? Lastly, I would think that the Annishnabe aren't the ones tearing past the campsites as fast as possible, and in droves, to flock to a fishing hole "before the other guy". |

ojig Member
Post Number: 25 Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Friday, September 7, 2007 - 2:08 pm: |
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At times it is better if a boat does not slow down to an idle when approaching a canoe, or group of canoes. When at half throttle the waves are only larger because there is more of the hull in the water. This makes the waves twice as big when compared to going full out. I don't know why some groups of canoes must be spread out horizontally(not saying you were in a group)in such a manner when approaching a narrow section of a lake (eg. Kokoko inlet). Situations such as this could be avoided if such a group could form a single line until they are past the bottle neck, so to speak. The guy in the boat would appreciate the safety just as much as those holding the paddle. This should be standard practice for tripping guides when traveling larger bodies of water with more traffic. |