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brian
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 02-2004


Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

In the Misabi Range, along Pinetorch Creek, above the first lake north of Pinetorch Lake there is need for a trail. Most of the route between the two lakes is the creek, which is trackable only in high water. Most of the time it must be portaged and then down the rocky creek bed. No fun at all. There is a 225-metre trail along the most southern section, which could be connected to a new northern trail section bypassing the creek. Odd there isn't already a trail here. I was just there this past summer.
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rryan
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Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Walked from the Sturgeon to the Wanapetei last summer. All portages muddy, hairy, uphill, and tough. It is a really tough two days. The only campsite between the two is a small one on East-West Lake. (That's Keewaydin's name for it-- I don't think it is named on the map.)

The portage from Haenschtel (sp??) to the Wanapetei might as well have been full of quicksand. It was late July and it was still really wet (although we had a very wet season). My notes had the portage going over the hill marked on the map, but it stays in the drainage north of all the contours(hence the surplus of muck). [if you're coming from the Wanapitei] the portage starts on a high bank of the Wanapitei so I can see that it would be hard to spot from the river. We saw a group that spent two days trying to find it and gave up. However, I don't think it is that hard to find: if you know how to read a map, you should be fine.

All the way down the Wanapitei the portages were clear and where they should be. The water was high and we enjoyed some really wonderful whitewater that is hardly ever offered on that river.
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brian
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Post Number: 222
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 9:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yes, trevor, it is fodder for elsewhere. Please, reread the instructions at the top of this page.

This is not a discussion area and your message was moved.
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jackpine
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Re: Pinetorch Creek. I was through there in September 2004. As Brian indicates, the southern portion of the portage is fine. The rest of it requires hopping from rock to rock. Not to long, but you really have to be careful.
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bigwolf
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2005 - 9:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Notes from trip up Sturgeon River on August 22nd, 2005. It's clear no one goes up the Sturgeon from River Valley. After Bridge Rapids portages are spotty at best. Dont exist or completely overgrown if they do. The C2/C3 right after bridge could not be found at all, even after searching high and low. We had to run it even though it was extremely bony and rocky, almost capasized due to rocks. All portage entry points going up river need to be tagged or marked. Squatters need to be removed so canoiest can find the trails up the Sturgeon.
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bigwolf
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 8, 2005 - 1:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Also forgot to mention that we could not find the portage trail at Double Bend on the Sturgeon. We looked high and low thru thick bush trying to find it. No luck. No signs could be found. We were going upriver and realize most people run it...but it was very low...we had to line it, not a pleasant experience.
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doublebend
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Between Yorston Lake and the Sturgeon River, May 2007:
The portage at the south end of Yorston Lake is extremely overgrown between Yorston Lake and the logging road that bisects it. Between the logging road and the next un-named lake it's not too bad, but that first section is a real push through thick spruce/balsam regrowth. The middle portage has a few blowdowns blocking the trail, but nothing too bad. The portage down to Pilgrim Creek/Sturgeon River could use some brushing out as it too is growing in from the sides and had a couple of awkward blowdowns.
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brian
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Post Number: 826
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 9:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

The landing to the portage, at the mouth of Pilgrim, is not in the logical location, but farther west. The crossover (between Yorston and the Sturgeon) was disrupted by logging in the 1960s.
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ed
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 7:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I thought the portage crossed Pilgrim Creek at the end of the logging road, where the bridge is out?
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brian
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yes, it does cross Pilgrim. I think we are all on the same wavelength.
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sundown
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Post Number: 278
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 7:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

The portage from Grays Lake to Banks Lake was
rough late July. Apparently OP went thru in May
but "didnt have a chainsaw with them".

We did... so we cleaned away the blowdowns...
(took us most of a day to clean it up)...
as we did all the way down the Makobe to Elk Lake.

Why no chainsaw on Route Maintenance runs?
Dont know.

Sundown
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sundown
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Post Number: 279
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Has anyone been thru Montreal River to Mendelsohn to Maple Mountain recently... and, if so, what kind of shape was it in?

Thanks

Sundown
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doublebend
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

When we reached Pilgrim Creek last June the water was too high to allow us to cross at the old bridge location, forcing us to walk upstream a short distance, put in, load up, and paddle across the creek, landing at the upper end of a newly-marked and roughly-cut portage alongside the river-right bank of the creek down to the Sturgeon.
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dergon_darkhelm
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 7:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Obabika Lake Campsite:

Unsure if this is a campsite problem or simply a "map mislabel" issue but ...

What is marked on the Canoe Route planning map as a large (solid triangle) site was nonexistance. Per the map a large site should sit on the southern point of the mainland on the west sore of Obabika approximately 1.5 miles east of the Wawiagama portage.

We had four canoes that left camp staggerred with the plan to meet at that site for lunch and none of us could find it when we got there. No biggie, we had a spot of lunch on the small island campsite just South of where the large site was supposed to be.
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cascade
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 9:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Interesting re the missing Obabika Campsite... we couldn't find it either! Had rough water coming in the main lake and thought pulling in at the first or second site would be a good idea... ended up crossing back over to the east side as we couldn't find either of the sites on the west side.

Also were disappointed by the condition of the campsites south of the portage into Obabika Inlet. The island sites were overgrown, maybe it's time to take them off the maps? The west site high up on the rocks looked very nice and the occupants told us of another site further south west. It was very nice with a brand new thunderbox.

PS... we loved our trip on Obabika... great water, great weather, great campsites!
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brian
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Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

That map is dated and needs an update.
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ed
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Post Number: 591
Registered: 03-2004


Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

When I went through Obabika this Spring, I had trouble finding that site as well.The remnants are still there. A fireplace that has never been used with a large fallen birch laying across it. I doubt that anyone has ever used this site and have recommended that it be removed from the next edition of the map.
The island site just a bit south of this point is still being used and is suitable for light use by one or two people, on ocassion. It is too small for a TB.

The small island site that is across from a cabin in the entrance to the south bay is too small to use and should also be removed as an active site. Fortunately, for the integrity of this island, no one has camped there for many years. This is the island which has traffic signs attached to it.

In the vicinity of the entrance to the south bay in the lower basin is a large site which is marked in the wrong location on the map.This site is actually high up on the south point of the large island.It has a TB, but the landing here is in some shoreline bushes making it difficult to locate....but you should be able to see the fireplace, located in an open pine forest, as you cruise along the shoreline.
The remainder of the sites in the south (lower) basin are located as presented on the map.

In response to Cascade... Not all of the islands in the north part of the south basin ever did have campsites on them, but.....
in this area, there are also some nice sites on islands that are not marked on the Planning Map. So you need to look around a bit while travelling north towards the narrows and you will be rewarded for your efforts.

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house
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Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Wednesday, July 1, 2009 - 3:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

We traveled from the Matagamasi Lake access point to Lake Temagami via Maskinonge, Wawiashkashi, Manitou, and Gull Lake last week.

Could not find the portage from Maskinonge Lake into Gowasi Lake but the creek between the two lakes is passable.

The portage from Gowasi to Gamagowong Lake was hard to locate. It is overgrown but OK. It is located in the northernmost dimple at the eastern end of the lake. The north shore of Gagnon Lake is very boggy.

The trail from Gamagowong to Kelly Lake was extremely difficult to locate. It is very overgrown and seems not to have been used for several years. It is located at the northernmost end of the lake in a boggy area behind several beaver lodges. We swamped the trail enough to make it passable and flagged it.

The portage from Kelly Lake to the Sturgeon is overgrown but easily traveled. It is located about twenty meters northwest of the beaver dammed outflow creek at the northeast end of Kelly Lake. We flagged the trailhead.

From the Sturgeon to Wawiashkashi Lake the portage is OK. The trailhead is on the right immediately inside the mouth of the Manitou River

We were unable to locate the long portage from Maskinonge Lake to the Sturgeon River at either end. Hoping that someone will mark the trail.

Bring a bug net and lots of fly dope if you travel this route this time of year.

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brian
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Posted on Wednesday, July 1, 2009 - 7:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

There is an easier route between Maskinonge and the Sturgeon than the one you did.

Not sure why you did not find 3.5-km Kelly's portage between the Sturgeon. It is extremely well used and a wide trail. You can find the route at the link below. Did you use the one in Hap's book?

http://www.ottertooth.com/Temagami/Maps/kellys-rou tes.htm
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speeddemon
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 6:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

We opened up the Nastogan portage out of Emerald Lake to Turtle Shell. This trail had been abandoned for some time but it cuts the portage from 3 kms to 2kms. It's located in the 2nd bay past the dock where people have been portaging from.
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brian
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Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Do you not mean the portage between Emerald and Manitou? I am looking forward to checking that out.
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speeddemon
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 7:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yes that's the one Emerald Lk portage to the pond, paddle across to the 805 then 0.8 km to Turtle Shell Rd. & into to Manitou Lk.
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speeddemon
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Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Monday, August 1, 2011 - 9:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

The site that people can't find(old firepit & birch down across it) is directly behind the small rock island in the west bay before Wakimika River. This site can only be used in a low water season but can accomidate 2 tents & has a shallow beach. This site has no camp sign. The flat long rock across from it is a beautiful campsite. A nice place to hang a hammock a relax. I believe this on has a TB.
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bushwacker
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Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Monday, April 1, 2013 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Looking to clear up and clean up portages from Wolf Lake to Laura Lake via Marjorie Lake in late April early May. Anyone interested in helping out feel free to contact me.
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ed
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Post Number: 1226
Registered: 03-2004


Posted on Monday, April 1, 2013 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

As far as I know this route is clear. Most of it was cleared up in 2010 and again in September 2011. The section from Wolf to Laundry by way of Laundry Creek was cleared in the spring of 2012.
I have not seen any reports (posts) that would indicate that more effort is required at this point.
From McConnell Bay to Laura Lake might need some attention. But one would have to confront the "bog monster" in a section of that portage.It needs a considerable number of logs to be cut and laid in place to facilitate travel across the bog.

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