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navelfuzz
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 2:46 pm: | 
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I have to say I too have experianced the fustration of hanging the pack. I plan on picking up a few barrels this spring, but only to help protect and waterproof food.
Even with the use of barrels, I would hang them if at all practical. (unless above the tree-line ofcoarse)
I have also found getting the lines up to be easier by bringing some cheap light line for pulling up the main lines. I also bring a few nice beach stones that I have drilled a drilled hole for the line. The rock never comes off (but I have lost a few with rope snags).
While I have had few problems (none with bears), I disagree with cooking or storage near tents. I have had some small sites before, when this happens, I just make an effort to cook and hang as far away as practical.
My thought is that I want to avoid problems and even if this is not needed, it has always worked.
A note to Stephen, we do have griz in Ontario (something I learned myself recently), we also have polar bears (and wolverines). But you will find yourself well above Temagami. |
four_eyez
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 8:14 pm: |
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In many of my past tripping experiences, I have never witnessed there being any issue with leaving food packs on the ground. Actually, most of my past tripping has been with a youth camp: that meaning thats theres between 8-14 of us, with hundreds of pounds of food -- kind of diffucult to hang all of that up. Perhaps the presense of many tents filled with many people may have been deterance enough for any bears that wandered nearby. I wouldn't definately hang food packs tripping somewhere such as Algonquin, due to the high number of encounters in such an area.
With something such as a barrel, however, I would trust it to block out smells and be enough of an annoyance.
One strategy of course: place a bell, large pots or pans, or something noisy on top of your food containers --noisy enough they could wake you up. I've read, too, of someone hooking up some kind of basic little homemade alarm system that goes off when displaced. |
kim
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 8:16 pm: |
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beep...beeep...beeep...and then the bear runs over your tent......... |
kim
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 8:21 pm: |
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beep...beeep...beeep...and then the bear runs over your tent......... |
hillbilly
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 11:17 pm: |
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If you do not Bear proof your camp then you are asking for trouble. A bear might come and thenwhat will you do. Bear proof your camp and also know what to do if a bear comes into camp. If you do not do this then we will hear about you on the news. Is this the 15 minutes of fame your are looking for.
" Camper killed by Bear, Camper did not Bear proof camp"
Bill |
brian
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Post Number: 402
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 9:39 am: |
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Well, not sure if you mention death by bear in jest, but the reality is something completely different given how often that has happened.
The concern is theft by bear, but even that has been rare. Except for the Hobart bear in the 1970s, the Diamond bear in 2001, and a few bear "campsite wanderings", have there been other bear thefts in Temagami? |
john_v
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 12:16 pm: |
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I trust my food in a barrel pack.... away from my camp. But I wouldn't trust it to conceal the scent of food from a bear. I haven't hung a food pack since getting my barrel. I've heard they are bear proof, even to the point of one bear leaving his tooth embedded in the thick plastic around the lid edge. I've had more problems with coons in Algonquin than anything else. I once tripped the LE River with a Liskeard local who insisted on leaving his food pack outside the door of his tent. I thought he was asking for trouble but not even a mouse touched his things. Not sure if it was his b.o. or just luck. |
hillbilly
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Post Number: 127
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 12:15 am: |
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Just trying to prove a point. If you do not Bear proof your site there is always the chance of a bear visit.
I no longer hang a food pack due to the barrel pack I carry. If a bear did try to get my food the Barrel pack will just roll around and maybe away from the bear. By the way, I have never seen or been visited by a bear in my camp in 26 years of canoeing, Knock On Wood! Just lucky, maybe, but I do not think so.
Bill |
canoebear
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Post Number: 240
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 7:34 pm: |
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"Prime Black Bear Habitat"
Black Bears R attracted to areas where
much berries, nut crop & fish R in-season,
along with dead animal carcass hav been downed.
Before setten-up camp, check fer rotten meat stench, together with, eyen over-head fer crows,
ravens plus turkey vultues to show wher
lifeless remains of gone wildlife be.
Pitchen tent near natural/or Native path trail,
runnen pristine abundant fish waters,
scattered waste/or any metal fire-pit is
just asken fer "Bear Troubles".
"Take Heed" fer Bear-Signs!
Such-as, fresh paw tracks, pilled-up scat,
tree scratched scrapes, as well as, new diggens.
Pay attention to observed flag impact imprints
of symbols that tha Black Bear be a regular
visitor in "His own Dwellen of Residency".
When organic Bear food be in-oodles,
U hardley-ever see tha Bruins, but when
natural crops fail "Be Bear Aware"!
"Mother Nature's Creatures" R beasts of
occasional chance of compulsion obsession.
A "Bear's-Nose" identifies to remember that
canoe campers/or backpackers packed provisions be well-worth tha gamble venture, to take a chance, along with, taken a risk.
hillbilly be dead-on-reckonen with years of skilled practiced camp smarts back-ground.
"Take Good Note" of bill's knowen savvy of
"Tha NE Wild Water Woods"!
he made his own luck by prevention anticipation/or
a counter-action by tha obstruction of stoppen,
warden-off + starven-off free roamen Hungry Bears.
bill's "Bear Proof" idea of barrel food pack reigns-Superior!
Safeguarden aroma oders of food + supplies by
storen hidden cache bout 100' down-wind of
outfitted wigwam/or tepee be a safe-bet.
Burn-off grease of cook stuff, also
wash-down food prep areas.
Bringen any scent in yer A-Frame &
U invite unwanted sleep-overs.
Encampment situated wher U can see + hear tha
"Friends Of tha Forest", along with thems-to taken notice of U too.
Come in peace, leave-it keepen clean,
so not to put those that follow in harms-way.
A fed Black Bear be a dead Black Bear.
"Bear In Mind" we're merely canoe portagen
staight thru "Tha Guardian's Passage", Heya! |
paul_hammersten
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Post Number: 197
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 8:25 am: |
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" ' Bear In Mind ' - we're merely canoe portagen
staight thru ' Tha Guardian's Passage ', Heya! "
Well said!! good buddy.
Heya
The Turtle |
canoebear
Member
Post Number: 241
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 7:27 am: |
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"Sense of Uncertainty"
Menacen hazards of wanderen Black Bears
brings panic terror to wilderness canoe campers alike, & which dread fright of dead of night much invites more perils of risky elements to bring.
But great perils hav much beauty to it.
A call to mind in tha mist of tha wilds;
that tha day has eyes;
tha night has ears.
To see thru it; 'tis to go-on enduren
to canoes take-out end, Heya!
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paul_hammersten
Member
Post Number: 198
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 10:27 am: |
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paul_hammersten
Member
Post Number: 199
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 7:04 pm: |
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The above photo was meant to show up over in the left hand column under my name.
Back to the drawing board...try again!!
Best
Paul |
canoebear
Member
Post Number: 242
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 9:36 am: |
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"Chief Waymaker"
'Tis instinctive preeminent Navigator
lays a prodden course by sight-set put-ins
Who backs canoe trippers to seek guarded
take-outs at remote far-off riverbanks.
Paint Turtle strengthens paddlers along
wild waters route by unwaveren persistence,
till canoe movers become much grounded.
"Bearen tha weight" of "Tha Earth Mother"
be a honorable undertaken.
Turtle back drum senses hazardous rapids ahead.
By ground rearen, Turtle guides canoe portagers
to be easy-goen, to take it slow, which gives much time to figure obstacle-out, so to forge-on.
A close-up snap-shot image uncovered/or lets-out,
a figure statuette make-up of a "Path-Finder", Who, keeps-up tha wild waters link-up to tha Native woods edge.
'Tis Turtle' watery means to make-way, Heya!
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ghost
Member
Post Number: 6
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, July 5, 2009 - 9:30 am: |
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As far as bells and pots to keep guard, I realized early on that I was in far more danger from lack of sleep every time some chipmunk, racoon, or squirrel got curious. I now just make sure everything is packed up secure in the barrel and far enough away that I won't be woken up. I'm never more than a few days away from civilization anyway. You won't starve in a week. |
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