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dave
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Post Number: 184
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Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

thanks for the info guys..something i'll have to keep in mind

i'm curious though, what a ballparked length of time for option 2 that curly mentioned?

(Message edited by dave on March 2, 2010)
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curly
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Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 - 9:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

2 hour drive time from Temagami town, then 6-10 hours from put in to Florence.

Fireman, was this you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL2l7iUwTyc

:-O

Rubber side down, ladder side up, and the wet stuff goes on the hot stuff.

;-)
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fireman
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Post Number: 46
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Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

never that bad, but it is our worse nightmare.
much worse was having the unattended fire truck stolen from Home Depot in Toronto and having the police chase it to the next town. You can save 1,000 lives....but have one truck stolen and that is all you ever hear.
that's OK, it still beats a real job any day of the week.
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otter_mel
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Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Ed,
You must have an olympic dispostion to paddle from Ranger Point to Mine Road (I assume you mean the Mine landing at Central Access point) in 6.5 hours!!
Wind or no wind, we have done that in much more time than that (even camped on the way)!
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ed
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Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 - 1:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Central Access Road.
Yeah not hard to do that.The wind can screw you up when it's coming up the NE Arm. It is about 27-28 km, at 4-5 kliks/hour.It takes a bit longer going solo.
But it is not an olympic disposition that does it.
It is mostly the thought of getting a beer after what may have been a long dry spell.


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ed
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Posted on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Fireman wrote:
"You can save 1,000 lives....but have one truck stolen and that is all you ever hear."

Kind of like the poor old bugger caught snoozing in the TTC Ticket Booth a few weeks ago.In his case, it looked as if he should have been retired.

I think he took a lot of flack from his bosses as well as the Media.
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fireman
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Posted on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 - 3:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Ed, just to be clear, it wasn't MY firetruck.
as for the TTC employee....well, there are much worse crimes being committed in this city than that and yet the public likes to focus on the unimportant, no matter what.
The popularity of cameras, cell phone cameras, digital movie cameras has caused every emergency worker in the city a lot of grief. it is quite often a huge invasion of victims' privacy, as well.
Imagine seeing pictures of yourself from when you were hit by a car crossing a street, covered in blood, possibly crippled and some idiot comes along and snaps a photo...It happens every single day down here.
That is why I canoe. To escape the human race. Give me the bears any day. I've had people take pictures while we are performing CPR on someone while their loved one is grieving hysterical next to the body and yet someone feels it is acceptable to take the photo.....the only satisfaction is if there is a police officer nearby, we can have them arrested and confiscate the camera or cellphone. Anyway, sorry about the rant.
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ed
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Posted on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 - 4:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I knew it wasn't your truck Fireman.And I can sympathize with the problem you have with cameras etc.We live in the Twitter age. The name says it all.
The human race suffers from a serious lack of IQ.
I enjoy my time away from it all.

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curly
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Posted on Thursday, March 4, 2010 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Good thing none of us had our cell phone cameras handy when you-know-who fell in the fire.
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ed
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Posted on Thursday, March 4, 2010 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yeah, but you have a 5 minute response time so whoever was taking the pic would have had to wait a long time to see the rescue take place.Good thing other " non-professionals" were there to assist..
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curly
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Posted on Thursday, March 4, 2010 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

The first line of defence is always SOBER bystanders.
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kim
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Posted on Thursday, March 4, 2010 - 1:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

.......then there was no defence!
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ed
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Posted on Thursday, March 4, 2010 - 1:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I wasn't one of them. Gone to bed long before any rescue was needed.
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hillbilly
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Posted on Friday, March 5, 2010 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Curly wrote:
Good thing none of us had our cell phone cameras handy when you-know-who fell in the fire.

One little incident and I guess that is all people remember.
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kim
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Posted on Friday, March 5, 2010 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Little incident?
The possiblity of self immolation is a little incident?


That was almost BBQBilly....with no sauce for flavour
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fireman
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Posted on Friday, March 5, 2010 - 2:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

sounds like you guys are not ALWAYS the voice of caution, reason and risk assessment.
If I have learned anything in life, it's never let a white man get too close to a campfire if there is any alcohol within five kilometres.
the obsessive need to "Make Fire Big" seems to always end in tears.
I have a few burn scars of my own I am none too proud of.
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kim
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Posted on Friday, March 5, 2010 - 4:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

fireman

Gotta have a wee bit of fun sometimes.
Its usually at BurninBillys expense.
He loves the attention

I have noticed that the majority of all men are piro's around a campfire
Must be a caveman thing?
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ed
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Posted on Saturday, March 6, 2010 - 7:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Hillbilly wrote:
"One little incident and I guess that is all people remember."

We are all lucky, Hillbillly is especially lucky that he didn't get burned 100km from nowhere, in the middle of the night.
I think that is what I remember.
Also, I understand how it could have happened... sitting in one of those CTC bucket chairs on a sand beach and then trying to get up, and out of it while standing on deep sand.
None of us are "spring chickens" anymore, we are all getting older so we need to understand and work around our diminishing physical abilities.

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lost_canoe
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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 9:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Hey guys, leave Billy alone.... wait, what am I saying?? Bill hit me over the head at the Outdoor Adventure Show!! Ok, Billy away.

Hi Ed,
You mentioned that you drove into Twinkle via Iron Lake and came out at Wawiakashi Lake. Which is better?

Is twinkle, Pinetorch, Akick, Kaukin, Seagram and back to Twinkle an easy 4-5 day loop? We are also planning on 1-2 days off added in.

Mike
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ed
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Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 8:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

The easier drive is over Manitou Bridge and then turn left to Wawiakashi rather than right to Manitou Lake, Emerald etc. Time to Twinkle from Bridge is ~ 1 1/2 - 2 hrs.Watch you don't get lost on these roads.
Twinkle to Pinetorch is about 1 day.Pinetorch to Talking Falls would be a really long arduous day. Few campsites through there. Just the one on a small lake on the Ottertooth Map. The other sites shown on Hap's maps are mostly non functional now and need rehabilitation.The site on the north end of Asabi Lake is still useable, for 1 tent only. The remainder of the site in behind some trees has been trashed by a fisherman or hunter.The site shown on Seagram is OK. You can also camp on the portage between Seagram and Linger Lakes but use the Linger Lake side.The original camp site through here where the old logging road crossed the Yorston River is now an ATV Fording point.From this portage across Linger, up Ames Creek to Twinkle is about 4 hours.
Is it an easy route? No. There are some long days.Talking Falls is very nice.So is Pinetorch, Pine Lake, Seagram Lakes.
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yellowcanoe
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Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Hey ed,

Early in this thread, you said:

"The last time I went to Twinkle, I went across at Iron Lake. The road is not too bad through there but there is one very scratchy section of ~500m that crosses a small creek, that needs to be negotiated. I came out via the Wawiakashi route. The road through here was being upgraded last Fall by Goulard, so it should be in pretty good shape now."

Do you think think this same road would be decent in mid-May, or would you expect it to be pretty messy?

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ed
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Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 1:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Depends on the weather in May.
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yellowcanoe
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Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 2:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

ed - Wet weather?
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ed
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Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 4:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yes. That would make it mushy.Especially as it thaws out.
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yellowcanoe
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Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 4:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

But probably doable with an AWD?

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